After thinking about eCommerceBytes latest run in with eBay, I have to wonder. What is on that eCommerceBytes blog that scares eBay so much?

eBay must be seriously concerned about not only Ina Steiner and her eBay articles, but some of the comments must really strike a nerve in eBay Headquarters.

There really is no other explanation other than the fear that some big media outfit or Federal agency will read something that peaks their interest, and start an investigation.

And that absolute line of bull that eBay fed the Steiners as to why their site was reported for phishing.

eBay’s Senior Manager of Media Relations Johnna Hoff emailed EcommerceBytes an explanation later that day.

“In the course of normal monitoring, a combination of keywords on an eCommerceBytes blog post was flagged for its similarity to potentially fraudulent references unrelated to eCommerceBytes. As a result, eBay employee access to the site was temporarily blocked. Access has been restored. eBay respects eCommerceBytes and apologizes for any inconvenience.”

Just what key words were used in that article that appeared phishy to eBay’s bots? And also why do eBay Employees need access to eCommerceBytes Blog anyway? eBay employees should be WORKING instead over reading what the Steiners wright about eBay, and the comments her readers post.

But it still sounds like another half ass eBay cut and paste eBay bullshit response to me. Obviously from the poor grammar, it was sent from India where the help is cheap.

As a matter of a fact, sounds just like the double speak Hany Durzy used to spew out to the media. To which Vladuz replied using eBay Pink board access..

There is Good and there is Bad. There is also those who constantly scheme to do someone in, or throw another fellow worker or business associate under the bus to make just a little bit more profit, without having any conscious about the damage it might cause to fellow man. Sounds like eBay Corporation to me.

Vladuz was without a doubt a bad person that had no consideration of the Millions of eBay Seller and Buyers that lost money while he was taunting eBay. But i still get a big ole LOL out of eBay’s lies and cover up attempts.

As for Ina and David Steiner. They are always careful to not wright about anything that’s too eBay negative. I suppose they fear eBay, and need eBay contact to keep their business website going. Can’t really blame them if they have to brown nose eBay a little. If it were not for eBay their little website would loose most of it’s traffic and wither away, just like most of the mom and pop sellers that eBay put out of eBusiness.

When this site was getting hammered by a particularly nasty DdoS Attack last July i never got a reply to emails i sent to Ina Steiner. Guess she was terrified of her site getting whacked too. Needles to say I took the time to screen cap a shot of my Open DNS showing their blog was blocked and email it to them this morning.

I’m honestly believing that not many folks care about eBay and the people that follow them. 5 years ago, a story like what happened to EB would have the blog-sphere on fire with comments. Folks must just mostly ignore eBay news these days.

A lot of former eBay critics are gone. Fire Meg don’t post much any more, Rosalinda Baldwin of The Auction Guild has not been heard from in years. Company Exposed has not updated their blog in years. And there are those that throw up a site but a year later when it’s domain renewal time they are gone.

It’s mostly Me and Cappnonymous that are left. This sites traffic tells the tale that eBay is really dead.  I get the occasional stragglers searching for eBay VPP or other “too good to be true car scam info” but otherwise that’s about it.

eBay sure was a good thing back when it was a trusted venue to buy and sell on. Not much left of the classic eBay website any more. It’s sad what eBay has become!

From the eBay Motors Sucks Image Archive.

Nortel Networks VPN Connectivity Client. Vladuz Used This To Log Into eBay Servers

Vladuz With A List Of eBay Employees eMail Addresses and Passwords. Wonder What He Is Up To These Days?

This Is The eBay CS Investigator That Somehow Slid Out The Back Door.

Vladuz Used This SCO Helper To Send Scam Second Chance Offers To eBay Suckers

Wonder where Vladuz is these days? I hear he is out of the clink.

Check out our Scam Archive.

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Anyhoooo.. I wake up this morning and get this Open DNS warning that blog.ecommercebytes.com is blocked as a phishing website. I’m saying to myself, Hmmmm WTF is going on here? I cleared my cache and cookies and rebooted, but got the same result.

Back in 2007 Fire Meg said it best when he wrote a blog post titled: Is Vladuz The Good Guy? It tells about eBay with it’s BIG Guns shooting at Vladuz, but missing and hitting innocent store owners and other merchants. Same apparent deal here with the Steiners.

eComerceBytes Open DNS Phishing Warning - eComerceBytes Blog Blocked!

Of course this brought to mind the Hack Fest Vladuz did to eBay back in 2007. It’s about the same scenario as with eComerceBytes reported phishing website.

Back then Vladuz had hacked into eBay.de and gave himself administrative rights to post on eBay’s boards. He then posted screen shots of his alleged eBay hacking tools on eBay’s message board. Within a few hours eBay had figured out they had been hacked again and took the forums offline and removed Vladuz’s screen shots. But unfortunately many eBay member had made screen shots.

A German internet security site had wrote a blog post about Vladuz and his escapades with eBay, and included screen shots from eBay’s board. Soon there after an eBay attorney by the name of Scott Noyce sent fall-internet.de web host a take down notice. The host contacted their client who took the page offline until he could figure out what was going on.

Soon after contacting myself and Rosalinda Baldwin at the Auction Guild and finding out eBay had no right to request his site be shut down, much less that the FBI had no Jurisdiction in Germany. He put the page back up.

Next day his site, eBayMotorsSucks.com and TheAuctionGuild.com were all getting Phish site warnings when trying to access them. Hmmmmm! Same deal here Today!

Here is a link on the Wayback Machine to the Screen Shot below if you can’t read it.

Web Archive Screen Shot From The Auction Guld Showing Phish Warning. Credit To Cappnonymous For The Link

So here we are in 2012 with the exact same eBay Bullying and Intimidation Tactics they used back in 2007!

Lets face it.. If eBay does not like what someone says about them they will do whatever it takes to silence them. They have done this before and I’m sure will do it again.

eBay only cares about eBay and the hell with everyone else.

Bunch of UN-American creeps are building a huge facility in India! And to think of all the American’s that desperately need jobs!

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eBay accuses The Steiner’s of running a phishing site!

AuctionBytes.com and eCommerceBytes.com are news sites that report on the eCommerce world. They have been around for what seems like a lifetime, reporting various changes within eBay and other eCommerce sites, and have a good readership.

Recently their web host received a take down notice from eBay Inc. Below is a part of that letter.

Dear NTT America, Inc.,
We have just learned that your service is being used to display false or “spoofed” eBay.com pages, apparently in an effort to steal personal and financial information from consumers, including eBay users, in order to defraud them. Specifically, it appears that a NTT America, Inc. user is sending unsolicited messages to consumers, misrepresenting itself as eBay, and making statements that encourage the recipient to go to a page hosted by you at 198.64.133.73 – http://blog.ecommercebytes.com/cgi-bin/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2012/4/1333331894.html ecommercebytes.com to enter personal and account information. The deceptively gathered information is then sent to an email account and, based on our investigation of similar schemes, used to gain access to consumers personal accounts in order to commit fraudulent acts such as international credit card and wire fraud.

SNIP Read the rest of this take down notice on eCommerce Bytes Blog.

We sincerely appreciate your immediate attention to this important matter. We would also appreciate if you would take steps to confirm the accuracy of any contact information that your user may have provided to you in establishing the account. Should you have any accurate information that could assist eBay and law enforcement in tracking this individual, we greatly appreciate your assistance, as we know that you do not condone the use of your services for such criminal purposes.
Thank you,

eBay Inc.
Trust & Safety

Don Riggins
eBay Inc.
Audit and Investigations
driggins@ebay.com
securityalerts@ebay.com

This reminds me of when Vladuz was hacking the crap out of eBay, eBay sent a similar take down notice to a German web host that wrote an article about Vladuz. Scott Noyce was the eBay attorney that impersonated the FBI in that take down letter. Since when did the FBI have jurisdiction in Germany? Vladuz later hacked Scott Noyse’s eBay ME page and put his contact info on it for revenge.. LOL!

Knowing eBay as well as i do, I wouldn’t doubt this was caused by one of eBay’s sloppily programed bots.

A bot probably created a report, and i wouldn’t doubt an automated form letter was emailed to the administrative contact at NTT Internet.

eBay you double dumb ass bunch of blooming idiots. Sometimes a Human Being should personally review stuff like this. I hope the Steiner’s sue your ass off!

Everyone email driggins@ebay.com and tell him what a blooming idiot he is!

Updated 05/11/2012: eBay has blog.eComercebytes.com blocked as a phishing site. I’m getting a blocked message from Open DNS this morning when trying to view eCommerce bytes blog.

This is nothing new for eBay. Back during the Vladuz hack, eBay had The Auction Guild and this website blocked as phishing sites. Just another of eBay Inc’s bag of dirty tricks when they want to shoot the messenger!

eCommerce Bytes Blog Phish Warning From Open DNS.

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The parties in Fernando v. PayPal and Zepeda v. PayPal are currently in the process of finalizing a written settlement agreement and exhibits, including proposed notice to the settlement class. A hearing on preliminary approval is set for June 12, 2012, with the motion for preliminary approval to be filed by May 8, 2012.

While terms of the settlement are as yet undisclosed, the litigation has not stopped PayPal from expanding its holds policy. PayPal sent an email last week sharing its plans to update its “Funds Availability program” to add additional circumstances in which it could hold seller funds, including “Sellers who sell an item that has a sales price that is significantly higher than the average sales price of items previously sold by that seller.”

Read the rest of this article on AuctionBytes.com.

I find it interesting that AB didn’t publish their article as a blog post so folks could comment on it. Wonder why?

The Cases

Zepeda v PayPal
Civil Action No. 10-cv-02500 EJD, filed June 7, 2010
Lawyer: Freed & Weiss LLC eric@freedweiss.com

Fernando v PayPal
Case No. 10-CV-01668 PVT, filed April 19, 2010
Lawyer: Marina Trubitsky & Associates marina.trubitsky@lawcontact.com

Dunkel v eBay
Civil Action No. 5:12-cv-01452-HRL, filed March 22, 2012
Lawyer: Marina Trubitsky & Associates marina.trubitsky@lawcontact.com

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PayPal Funds Frozen Solid? Got That Really Fucked Feeling?

Got a real lively topic going on the eBay Motors Forums.

So far this topic has 100 replies and I’m sure more will be piling up before it’s all over.

This one is more entertainment than watching re-runs on TV. But i have a feeling eBay / Liveworld will likely pull it soon. Just in case we have made screen captures of all 5 pages to preserve the evidence so to speak.

It’s quite simple, eBay want’s you to believe your covered against Fraud when using PayPal. Sometimes that’s not always the case.

Anyhooo..  Seller in California sells this old 1979 Honda Civic, Item number 170819234455. It brought a whopping $2,125 and the buyer initially made a deposit with PayPal, then later paid the remainder of the balance also with PayPal.

Now the usual eBay Motors Buyers Remorse is beginning with the buyer screaming misrepresentation. According to the topic discussion, the buyer is in Florida and had the car shipped from California. Lets face it.. It’s his car – just plain and simple. If it breaks in half, he owns both halves.

Personally speaking, I don’t think it’s such a bad deal for $2,125. Old cars that are rust free like that one is advertised as are hard to find.

But the bottom line here is. *IF* the buyer funded his PayPal purchase with a Credit Card, he might be able to finagle a charge back.

BUT PayPal does not cover eBay Motors Vehicle Purchases, not to be confused with Auto Parts and Accessories. The same with normal eBay Buyer Protection. eBay Motors VPP only covers vehicles up to 10 Years old. And at that is worded by eBay’s legal team and is as full of holes as a piece of Swiss cheese.

So the only way then to achieve a refund is to go to the Credit Card Company that funded the transaction to PayPal. But in most states a CC company will not charge back on Titled Property, Car Truck, Boat, RV, Etc. BUT the buyer could LIE and say it was for something else. Since he made that purchase with TWO PayPal Payments he very well could finagle at least one of them into a charge back.

Then when they are notified that a dispute has been filed, PayPal will FREEZE the amount of that charge back in the sellers account. PayPal says they fight charge backs, and often request documentation, but in the end it has been rumored they just say OK and go after the seller for the $$ plus a Charge Back Fee.

If you have emptied your PP account out, and closed any connected bank accounts, credit cards, etc, they can’t go and take that money back.

My advice in this situation is NOT to take PayPal for a vehicle in the beginning. But if you already did, cover your ass! Transfer whatever is in your pp acct to your bank acct.Theb call the bank and say you lost your check book, and to cancel that account and create another. Also call any credit card company that’s on file with PP and say you lost the card, they will cancel that card and issue another.

A savvy person that uses PayPal will have a separate bank account and linked debit card just to fund PP transactions. If you remove a funding source from PayPal it’s just removed from your usage, But it’s still available to PayPal. Think about that one!

Unfortunately if PayPal is unable to recover any funds that are charged back they will turn it over to collections, and if the amount is high enough will also file suit to recover. If your credit is spotless, you will just wind up stuck like chuck!

But getting back to the discussion topic, It’s easy to see who is being helpful and trying to help the seller prevent loosing his money. It’s also clearly obvious who the ones are that are alleged eBay employees under cover, as often referred to as company shills, stooges, sock puppets, etc.

Oh well.. Another day – another crappy deal on eBay Motors!

Video courtesy of PayPalSucks.com For Entertainment Purposes Only.

Discussion About 1979 Honda Civic. Possible PayPal Charge Back: 170819234455. Page 1

Discussion About 1979 Honda Civic. Possible PayPal Charge Back: 170819234455. Page 2

Discussion About 1979 Honda Civic. Possible PayPal Charge Back: 170819234455. Page 4

Discussion About 1979 Honda Civic. Possible PayPal Charge Back: 170819234455. Page 5

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Eric Salvatierra, a PayPal Exec of Palo Alto was alleged to have committed suicide back in March after being struck by a Caltrain commuter train.

I wonder what’s going on at eBay Corp Headquarters? Are the working conditions at PayPal bad enough to convince someone to off themselves? Just seems strange that this is the second PayPal employee to suffer alleged depression related suicide this year.

According to The Examiner.com, On April 6, 2012, Qinggen Wang, a principal software engineer at Paypal, committed suicide.  He was 40 years old.

Born in a poor family in China, Wang became the hero of his hometown, Haian County of Jiangsu Province, after winning the gold medal of the International Chemistry Olympiad in 1990.  After finishing his undergraduate study in China, Wang was accepted by Stanford University and graduated with a Ph. D’s degree in chemistry and a master’s degree in computer technology.

Wang started his career as a software engineer at deCarta.  He joined PayPal in 2004 and rose to the position of principal software engineer three years later. Wang was believed to have been suffering from depression for a long time, which eventually caused his suicide.

Could the working conditions under eBay Inc’s CEO John Donahoe be a contributing factor in both of these alleged suicides?

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While eBay Motors is not as popular of a scam trap as it was a few years ago, there are still scammers hustling the data dump trying to steal your money.

This morning while doing an eBay Motors related search, lookie what popped up in the 1st page of Google’s results >> www.ebay-motors.com << That stinks worse than a whore house at low tide!

Here is a who is look up on ebay-motors.com

This is an add on domain from cashbord.com Hosted by Host Gator.

As you can see below, It’s been rather busy!

So just BEWARE If that Price Is TOO CHEAP!

And read my Internet Car Buying Tips before some scammer cleans you out!

An educated buyer is a smart buyer!

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Non paying buyer, will not pay with Paypal, the only form of payment I accept, which the listing did specify. and he has a non-verified ship to address.

He will not cancel the sale, he will not pay, and yet Ebay keeps $30 plus in fees. Item 260999850349 plus 10% of shipping to Italy.

Another eBay Motors Seller Gets The Shaft!

Another eBay Motors Seller Gets The Shaft!

So why even bother selling on eBay or eBay Motors?>

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It’s been close to a year since you announced eBay Motors offered it’s own specific iPhone app.Things were Great and buyers were buying cars like crazy with the EBM iPhone app.

Maybe I’m missing something here. But if eBay Motors was really selling 2600 Cars per week with your iPhone App.. I would think you would have an Andriod eBay Motors App out by now.Must be just a bunch of typical eBay Marketing Hype.. LOL!

Of course in the real world when a car is SOLD it’s paid for and delivered. That’s not always true in eBay Motors where Deadbeat Bidders run a muck, and that eBay till goes Caching every time a deadbeat wins an auction or clicks some newbies BIN car listing..

eBay Motors Still NO Android App?

Is this J.D. getting a drink splashed in his face??

 Hey.. It’s Only Money.. LOL!

eBay Mobile Device Listings On eBay.con Still NO Android Specific APP For eBay Motors!

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Zimmerman wrote on his new website: therealgeorgezimmerman.com. “I cannot attest to the validity of the other websites.”

It has been confirmed that the site is real and is operated by Zimmerman himself. Domain records show the website was created Sunday using a Private registration service, and is hosted on GoDaddy.com servers.

Zimmerman is soliciting donations through PayPal with a promise that “any funds provided are used only for living expenses and legal defense, in lieu of my forced inability to maintain employment.”

As for George Zimmerman, he better have his charitable donation paperwork in order.

PayPal is world famous for FREEZING charitable donation account funds, holding them for up to six months while gaining interest on the seized account’s balance. That’s no joke either, just ask humor blog Regretsy.com how PayPal seized a Needy Children’s Christmas Fund, then there was the Wiki-leaks account seizure, etc etc etc.

But depending on how long it takes to build up a sizable amount of money in Zimmerman’s PayPal account, he might be able to see it grow before PayPal FREEZES It.

The account would seem to be  being used for purposes contrary to the Paypal Acceptable Use Policy: You may not use the PayPal service for activities that: (e) items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime.

George Zimmerman's Website With Photo Of Vandalized Building In His Name

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eBay Trolls Don't Like Competition

But anyway.. This post on eBay’s Motors Discussion Board got some real negative response.

“Th_H_mb is a great place to sell Hot Rod Goodies !!!!! I listed the same item I had on Ebay which brought 65 lookers no sale in a week,Same item on the other site brought 400 lookers in 4 days and SOLD !!!!!! Give The ham a bone !!!!! Ebay is over folks,Lets move on!”

Seems some of the regulars, and probably an eBay Shill or two don’t like hearing some other site produces more $SALES$ than eBay.

The poster was referring to the well known H.A.M.B. Forums, also known as JalopyJournal.com a site where antique car enthusiasts hang out. If you have something vintage automotive related, give it a try.

Here is a screen cap of the eBay Trolls not too pleasant reply’s. I wonder if mr.constant is an eBay pink under cover?

It’s nobody’s fault but eBay’s that they screwed up a great site to source collectable and antique car parts.

eBay Motors Topic Where Seller Is Attacked After Bragging About Another Site Sale!

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Ever since the last major service interruption on 04/04/2012 when eBay members were unable to checkout with PayPal. There have been stories circulating about PayPal Red Flag Alerts after buyers were finally able to make eBay purchase payments.

If this was not enough to worry concerned PayPal merchants. Now Twitter is buzzing with reports of PayPal mobile app users logging into their accounts only to find the account they were logged into belonged to someone else. Also there is a report of this problem in a comment on EcommerceBytes.com, and another in the Droid Forums.

There is more information about this alleged bug here.

PayPal Forums Comment About A Possible Cross Account Mobile Scripting Glitch

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The eBay PayPal Forum was buzzing with questions from eBay sellers about what to do with their transaction payments red flagged as Risk Alerts.

One seller posted: Just got off the phone with PP, the CS says there’s “a glitch” in their system, obviously having widespread effects. She did say she’d add my account to the trouble ticket and they’d clear the Risk Alert flags up within 48 hours (which seems like a ridiculously long time!)

Another seller posted: What a bunch of crap. This has been going on since yesterday afternoon. I called PayPal immediately after I got my first “red flag” transaction and explained to them about this “Risk Alert!” situation. This was the first time in the 11 years that I have been using PayPal & eBay that I’d seen something like this and I wasn’t about to just shrug it off. The lady on the phone acted like I was some kind of idiot. Meanwhile, none of my PayPal transactions were going through. Some of my “buy it now” auctions were still running with 0 out of X items available??? It was just a bunch of nonsense. Finally, after calling two more times, they said there was a problem with PayPal and they were working to fix it as soon as possible. (yeah right) I was advised that “PayPal Checkout” was down. Great, so how many “buy it now sales” with “immediate payment required” did I mess out on yesterday evening while you incompetent fools “rolled out” a security update that wasn’t supposed to happen???? Get with it!

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I’m speechless!

Who could have imagined this?

Lately ebaY is so far beyond bizarre you can’t even compare it to reality.

Go read it, including the John Donahoe quotes, then come back and watch this video.

It’s the closest I could find to fully expressing myself.

 eBay has always touted it’s self as a pioneer. New frontiers indeed!

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EcommerceBytes.com published this announcement on their blog: eBay buyers are having problems paying for items through PayPal, and sellers are reporting problems with payment status on their transactions. eBay posted a rare notice on its Systems Announcement Board, stating. read the rest of the EB article here

Anyhoo.. It appears that after the problem was corrected eBay pulled it’s announcement. Of course as things of this nature go, I was unable to run down a screen shot of that announcement that went poof on eBay’s system announcement board.

All that is left as of this posting is a Google cache of the announcement in it’s index, but no cache of the actual announcement itself. This however is proof that eBay did indeed make that announcement of PayPal having checkout problems connecting to eBay or the reverse.

But the big question is, how many sellers with Buy-Now Immediate Payment Required listings were denied a sale because potential buyers were unable to complete payment because PayPal eBay checkout was down?

Knowing eBay as well as i do, I’m sure they pulled that announcement so sellers would not know the details about the glitch or how long it lasted, which according to a commenter on EB article was still ongoing at 11:30 EST.

We all know that the majority of buyers will buy elsewhere if the product is unavailable at their first choice of shop.

Google Index Cache Of Deleted eBay Checkout PayPal Glitch Announcement On 04/04/2012

Why would a business that specializes in providing and moderating community forums ignore a BBB Complaint?

From what i read on the San Jose BBB Website, LiveWorld didn’t respond to a complaint that was filed against the company, and never responded to numerous inquires from the BBB.

It’s a big ole LOL! that a company that specializes in a form of communication, does not have enough common sense to properly answer a BBB Complaint!

It is also rumored that this San Jose company is also referred to as Lie World and also provides shill and sock puppet services to their customers.

LiveWorld.com BBB of San Jose CA - "F Rating" for Poor Communication Skills

According to this announcement that took effect 04/01/2012. eBay is no longer giving away it’s FREE Experian Auto Check history reports to members of the EBM High Volume sellers club.

Beginning April 1, 2012, eBay Motors will allow high-volume sellers—sellers that list 7 or more vehicles locally and/or nationally per calendar year—to subscribe to the vehicle history report provider of their choice, and will no longer automatically provide free vehicle history reports on every car and truck listing.

High-volume sellers will have the option to continue to receive vehicle history reports in their eBay Motors listings by subscribing to AutoCheck. AutoCheck is offering both eBay member discounts and exclusive eBay-only subscriptions for qualifying sellers.

All sellers with 7 or more listings per year are eligible to receive these discounted rates. Simply notify Experian by March 31, 2012 to take advantage of the discounts.

Sellers that list less than 7 vehicles per calendar year will continue to get free vehicle history reports displayed in their listings—just as they do today.

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Obviously it must have something to do with Liveworld.com eBay’s Forum host and brand moderation team.

Did this mission turn out to be Impossible?? Did someone hack the crap out of them? Or did the thing just croak of being overloaded with Trolls, Shills, and Sock Puppets?

eBay Forums Down - Liveworld Mission Impossible??

eBay Forums Down - Liveworld Mission Impossible??

Watch as this counterfeit Nardi ‘style’ knockoff steering wheel obtained on eBay Motors flexes and brakes in two.

While the person in the video does not mention China, somehow that sure comes to mind combined with the word eBay in the same sentence. Great video dude!

From YouTube: We bought a fake Nardi ‘style’ steering wheel off eBay to see just how bad, dangerous and rubbish they are!

This applies to all fake steering wheels including fake Personal wheels, OMP, Sparco, Momo etc!

Remember folks, we always have 500 genuine steering wheels in stock!

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SAN FRANCISCO — An executive at eBay Inc.’s PayPal business unit who had served as finance chief at the company’s former Internet calling unit Skype was struck and killed by a train in Silicon Valley on Friday.

Eric Salvatierra was 39. He was hit by a Caltrain commuter train in Menlo Park, Calif.

A spokeswoman for Caltrain said the matter is still under investigation and declined further comment.

A PayPal spokesman said in a statement, “The eBay family will miss Eric very much. Our thoughts are with his family and all that knew him at this difficult time.”

Mr. Salvatierra had been serving as vice president of customer advocacy and operational excellence at eBay’s payments unit PayPal.

Prior to that role, Mr. Salvatierra had served as vice president and chief financial officer at Skype from the time it was acquired by eBay in 2005 until early 2007, according to his LinkedIn profile.

Wonder if this had anything to do with the firestorm of media coverage about PayPal holding sellers money?

PayPal Your Money Frozen Solid As A Block Of ICE!

PayPal Worker Commits Suicide Because He Can't Take It Any More - Spoof Video

According to this eBay Motors discussion board poster.

Spend who knows how many mega bucks on print advertising, only to have the URL on the full color page bumbled. ebay.com/mtr/vehicles

Actually the URL itself was not bumbled by Hot Rod Magazine. The bozos in eBay’s web development department somehow direct indexed the www, instead of using ebay.com as the main url and indexing the www as the alias like they should have.  Idiots!

eBay Motors "My Vehicles" Page Not Found Error

Then after the eBay member finally found the correct web address for the NEW My Vehicles Application through a web search, they were presented with thousands of pages of Generic Junk SPAM, instead of the parts they were looking for.

eBay Motors Discussion Board Thread (soon to be pulled) About How SCREWED UP My Vehicles Is!

Oh Well.. What else could anyone expect coming from eBay Inc and John Donahoe.

eBay Inc. The Chinese Junk capital of the world..

HMS eBay Sinking And The Rats Can Indeed Swim!

First it was MSNBC blasting eBay for selling ad apace to Counterfeiters selling knock off copies of Rosetta Stone software, and who knows what else on their website.

Now Fortune Magazine Blasts PayPal for holding sellers money!

From Fortune: Through all eBay’s struggles, PayPal has always been a bright spot. The online payment system, acquired in 2002, provided eBay with growing profits and, at times, a much-needed good story to tell investors. Founded in 2000 by tech stars, including Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, the company offered merchants and consumers an easy way to transfer money. To its credit, eBay generally left PayPal alone as it transformed itself from a company offering simple online money transfers into a digital currency powerhouse forging deals with retailers and pushing into mobile payments.

Now, interference by its parent is threatening to tarnish PayPal’s good name. It may even stymie CEO John Donohoe’s effort to finally turn around eBay (EBAY). At issue is a mundane-sounding decision to send out notices to sellers informing them that all payments they receive through PayPal for items sold on eBay will now be put on hold for up to 21 days. The company says the policy is aimed at protecting buyers from bogus sellers and to stem potential losses it incurs from its buyer protection program.

First introduced in December 2009, the policy only applied to a small number of sellers, mostly those with a history of complaints. Last Fall, eBay started applying the rule to virtually all of its members. That move has confused and outraged thousands of sellers – especially ones that have used the site for years, building sterling profiles along the way. “They’re treating me like a criminal,” says Madeleine Calabro, an Avila Beach, California, resident who has been buying and selling on eBay since 2003, garnering 100% positive feedback. Indeed, the PayPal website forum has more than 600 pages of posts from angry sellers protesting the hold. Also a flurry of surly websites paypalsucks.com, and screw-paypal.com, among others – have popped up in response.

Critics contend the new hold policy has little to do with scammers and everything with fattening revenues. The delay, they claim, could allow PayPal to collect interest on eBay sellers’ payments. Worse yet, eBay could potentially even make short-term, small-scale market investments with little risk. Any loss from one particular account, could be repaid with funds from the next account once the 21 day waiting period is up. PayPal – seemingly lending credence to such fears — adjusted the wording on its user policy to specifically state “you will not receive interest or other earnings on the funds that PayPal handles as your agent and places in Pooled Accounts.”

That has customers angry. “It is unfair and I considerate it illegal,” says Doug Black, a Thomasville, N.C., resident who has been selling on eBay since January 2008 and had 100% positive feedback on more than 600 sales when he got notice of the changes. Shortly after, he was approved for an eBay debit card. “If I’m such a bad risk, how did I get an eBay debit card?” he asks. Black stopped using the site, filing complaints with the Better Business Bureau, the Attorney General of North Carolina, the N.C. Banking Commission, and the California Attorney General.

Vexing sellers even more is the fact that PayPal takes its 3.25% fee and eBay takes its 9% fee right away instead of waiting 21 days. Even shipping fees, which are normally covered by the buyer, are put on hold, and eBay goes into the seller’s personal bank account to cover the shipping costs – a move that has caused some surprised sellers to be slapped with bank overdraft fees. “I closed my PayPal account immediately after my last payment was released,” says Lisa Holman, a Miamisburg, Ohio resident who had been selling for four years. “I will never sell on ebay again and I have vowed not to buy on eBay,” she adds.

Ebay spokesman Amanda Miller says the policy is being applied to sellers who “pose a higher than average risk of future transaction problems,” but declined to explain why customers, who had been selling for years without complaint, were suddenly considered risks. Miller confirmed “all PayPal balances are stored in an interest-bearing bank account.” She declined to say how much money eBay earned on sellers’ money, except to say it was “not material to our business.” She also did not respond to questions asking if any of the money was invested in other instruments.

That leaves eBay – and Paypal – under an avalanche of angry sellers who are threatening to close their accounts. Ignored, the problem could become a bruising “Netflix” (NFLX) moment — a reference to the tone-deaf miscalculation the video streaming company made last year when it introduced a price hike that caused subscribers to abandon the company in droves and the stock to lose more than 60% of its value. “I have hoped that this was eBay’s Netflix moment,” says Calabro, who has stopped selling until the hold is lifted from her account. She’s also opting to use credit cards, rather than PayPal, when buying items from other online sites, and is urging friends to do the same. “They haven’t taken into account that eBay’s sellers were also eBay’s most dedicated buyers. When they crush us as sellers, they crush our desire to buy there too.”

And while we are on the subject of PayPal. It’s ironic that Fortune would use the wording “through all of eBay’s struggles” to start their article out. eBay was in fine shape before CEO John Donahoe took over in 2007. Yes there were problems with some members, but nothing major that a solid verification system couldn’t cure.

eBay could have become the largest world wide verified buyers / sellers membership club where anyone could buy whatever they needed with confidence. Something like Angie’s List is doing today with services. But CEO John Donahoe went in and chopped eBay to pieces.

Donahoe’s destructive innovation did just what it was intended to do, disrupt everything that once made eBay great. He has practically ran off the greatest majority of eBay’s old school sellers that believed in the principals that Pierre Omidyar founded eBay on that made it great.

Donahoe hated that flea market image that eBay had built itself into and has effectively disrupted that image into extinction.  He replaced the greatest majority of his sellers with big diamond power sellers who could care less about eBay or it’s reputation.  And even worse has catered to China sellers who have flooded his marketplace with cheap junk.

Had Meg Whitman appointed someone else as CEO of eBay when she retired, eBay would most likely not be struggling like it is now. Donahoe has favored big sellers and ran off  his loyal old school sellers “that also were buyers” and replaced them with foreign counterfeit and junk sellers that are slowly chipping away at the cornerstone of trust that eBay once cherished.

Is eBay Robbing Peter to Pay Paul? They keep increasing sellers fees, and devise more ways to separate a seller from his wallet. As Donahoe continued his disruption, revenue must have severely dropped. Another reason to force PayPal on sellers, eBay owned PayPal and obviously needed the fees. Now it appears they are floating on sellers money while it is being held.

And i wonder just how many sellers that had their accounts frozen told eBay and PayPal to stuff it?  Maybe this was one of them that racked up 587 Negs in 30 days, obviously a bunch of eBay buyers had their Christmas Severely Disrupted by that deal.

eBay and PayPal might have a chance of survival if the BOD would toss John Donahoe out on his can, and attempt to reverse the damage that his disruption has caused.

Think I’m kidding? Ask any old time eBay member that remembers what eBay was like before Donahoe Disrupted It!

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Damn thing must be plugged up again!

Another long time eBay member since 1999 is calling it quits.

eBay Motors buyer and seller Life-Is-A-Beach has been an eBay member in good standing since 1999.

But ole Beach has lasted much longer than a lot of the old timers i know that gave up a long time ago.

I cant blame him one bit for being pissed off at eBay. He lists an old rare Diesel Mercedes and the buyer does not pay, then lies and leaves him a Negative!

Oh well.. Another one down. Not many left from the good old days.

Maybe that over flowing toilet in CEO John Donahoes office will trickle down into the data center and short the servers out.

All eBay cares about is the FEES that they receive from sellers. Nothing new in that department!

And to think that eBay prefers counterfeit sellers from abroad that are selling knock off copies of Rosetta Stone software on his website.

MSNBC did a whack job on eBay and Google for selling ad space to counterfeiters this morning!

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Yep.. Donahoe! It’s only a matter of time before this Pay Toilet backs completely up and overflows all of San Jose!

eBay Negative Feedback Left For Seller Life-Is-A-Beach By Non Paying Deadbeat Bidder!

eBay About Me Page For Member "Life-Is-A-Beach" Loyal eBay Member Since 1999!

This 14 year eBay seller (oldtoyco) claims he gave up after refusing to sign an eBay / PayPal reimbursement agreement.

14 Yer eBay Member / Seller OldToyCo Goodbye Message On eBay Motors Discussion Board Forums

eBay requires anyone that’s selling on the site to agree to reimburse them in the event a buyers purchase is refunded. A seller has to sign an agreement with PayPal to allow them to draw funds from the sellers preferred refund reimbursement agreement on file with PayPal.

Some of the old timers don’t agree with this NEW and improved eBay and rightfully thinking don’t trust eBay or PayPal. eBay is now Pro Buyer and a seller can get royally screwed by a conning buyer, all with eBay’s Blessings!

eBay Member Oldtoyco 100% Sellers Feedback With 14 Years Experience

Oh Well.. Such is life on the NEW and Improved eBay – The China Sellers Best Friend!

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Sport Bidding On eBay Motors!

Reports of my death after being held captive at the Utah, eBay Draper Terror Center and confinement camp are false.

I managed to escape after bribing an eBay Guard with a knock off Rolex Watch that i bought on eBay from a Chinese seller (he swore it was real).

When i escaped eBay still had Cappnonymous locked up, and were bombarding him 24/7 with old Nazi films. I guess he didn’t have anything to bribe the guards with since eBay suspended his account, and PayPal seized his funds.

So i recon it’s about time for a quick blog post to keep the site halfway current, and not looking abandoned.

After touring the usual forums and blogs, etc, I see it’s just about the same old sleazy eBay as ever.

So here is whats new since my last post.. It’s still mostly old news – same old whining about getting screwed etc. Just different sellers and buyers complaining about the same old stuff, but with a few new twists.

Here is someone that bought a collector Corvette with 44,000 Miles, but the title said 144,000 miles.. LOL!

eBay Motors - You Get FUCKED Here - Just Like At Home! LOL!

Nothing has changed in this sleaze pit. And the alleged eBay shills and sock puppets in the company fish bowl ridicule the guy until he leaves the discussion, then the buyer is called a Seagull, as to hurl the final insult to the guy that was allegedly FUNKED by eBay and the Seller!

I see eBay Negatives Blog has not been updated since last summer. RateeBay.com is still up, eBay has a glowing 6.7% feedback rating. Ole Crazee New York Driver is still video blogging away on YouTube. Meg Whitman’s Blog is still up.

And Firemeg is still posting anti-eBay sentiment. #1 Cause of Viruses & Trojans on Home PC’s? …eBay! LOL!

eBay Seller T.J.ELECTRONICS1 apparently went belly up at Christmas, this must have cost eBay a small fortune. Never did read about it anywhere, but it has all the signs of a major holiday screwing!

Ina Steiner is blogging about eBay inserting other sellers ads on completed item pages, and apparently has taken on another blogger. And PayPal is still seizing sellers money and is drawing lots of complaints as usual.

And.. John Donahoe.. Still does not have an Android App for eBay Motors!

Hey John Donahoe.. Where Is That eBay Motors Specific Android App You Were Working On Last April?

And last but not least.. Someone sent me this photo claiming it is eBay board moderator and alleged sock puppet SALEZ4U. Whoever it is, she looks rougher than a night in the Draper terror center jail. LOL!

Alleged eBay Board Moderator & Sock Puppet SALEZ4U In All Her Radiant Beauty.. LOL!

Oh well.. Another Day.. Someone Gets It Up The Wazoo On eBay!

What is it about eBay that so many people hate it? I guess that’s a stupid question, but i have not had enough coffee today.

eBay CEO John Donahoe

Well.. Where is it?

It’s the Christmas Shopping Season!

I have done a few searches and didn’t come up with anything.

For those of you that are just now tuning into this channel, here is the scoup.

On September 30th this year, ole eBay CEO John DonaHoe was seen blogging a video about how HOT eBay Mobile Device Sales were on his iPhone app.

He went on to brag about how well eBay Motors was doing with it’s own specific iPhone app. And claimed Motors was selling “2600 Cars EACH WEEK” with it’s iPhone app.

Donahoe went on to say how important mobile device platform coverage is for eBay.

Now far be it me to stir up any shit, BUT.. Where is it?? After all it really can’t be all that difficult to program one specifically for eBay Motors. And i can tell from the search results on this website alone there is a market for that keyword, people are searching for an “eBay Motors Android app”.

Plus if the iPhone Motors app was giving eBay Motors that many sales, I would think they would already had an Android Version out by the Christmas shopping season making them even more money!

Just think about all those car dealers with Droids, G2′s etc, scanning their newly purchased cars bar codes at auctions and uploading them to eBay Motors quick quick quick. With eBay Motors $50 per car listing fee that would add up quick!

Oh well.. It’s only unearned revenue. LOL!

So where is it?? Or was that a bunch of PR Bullshiz on this video??

Nothing like those eBay Deadbeat Bidders ruining the sellers eBay Experience.

There Is Nothing Like Them Thar eBay Deadbeats Bidding On Your Car!

It's OK, Mr. Sockpuppet Believes You!

Trust in information on the web is being damaged by the huge numbers of people paid by companies to post comments online, say researchers.

Could eBay be guilty of doing this?

From BBC News.

Fake posters can “poison” debate and make people unsure about who they can trust, the study suggests.

Some firms have created tens of thousands of fake accounts to flood chat forums and skew debate.

The researchers say there are reliable ways to spot fakes and urge websites to do more to police users.

The researchers from Canada and China say paying people to post comments is an “interesting strategy in business marketing” but it is not a benign activity.

“Paid posters may create a significant negative effect on the online communities, since the information from paid posters is usually not trustworthy,” they wrote.

Battles. In some cases, rival companies have used competing armies of workers to wage comment wars that confused members of the public looking for unbiased information.

The researchers say the fake comments can overwhelm some users, causing them to find it hard to trust any information found online.

They give the example of a spike in activity on a World of Warcraft chat forum on the Chinese website Baidu.

A thread titled “Junpeng Jia, your mother asked you to go back home for dinner!” received over 300,000 replies over a two day period.

A PR company later claimed it had employed 800 individuals to run 20,000 separate accounts on the site to help maintain interest in the videogame while it was down for maintenance.

Growing problem. While the practice of flooding forums with fake comments is most widespread in China, where such posters are called the Internet Water Army, it is becoming common in other nations too.

The US military is known to use fakes to infiltrate chat forums to gather information about potential terror groups.

Similarly many Facebook pages are plagued by bogus friends and “social bots” that are used to stage debates.

Many marketing firms also seed forums with comments in a bid to create “viral” interest in a company or event.

However, fakes can be spotted by analysing their patterns of activity and the words they use, say the researchers.

Fakes are more likely to start new comment threads, make inane comments rather than add to a debate, and repeat former comments with minor changes, the study suggests.

The researchers say they are refining software tools to help website administrators tackle the “painful” problem.

This video explains why Canadian Government is monitoring political social media sites for paid shills. But a Paid Stooge or LIAR that discredits other posters, or posts for a company hiding behind an Alias User ID just plain Sucks!

Some people have NO Ethics or No Conscious!

eBay Discussions Using Google Analytics

eBay forum members beware you are being tracked.

In a blink of an eye i thought i saw it flash by my browser while a page was loading. Further investigation of eBay discussion boards page source code revealed a snippet of Google Analytics code embedded in the header.

Google Analytics is a finely tuned piece of tracking software that can tell a webmaster just about everything about who is visiting a website. An eBay member no longer needs to be logged in for eBay to track their visits to the discussion boards.

This is probably the reason most of the archived eBay discussions have been removed from the site. I know external search used to bring up tons of very negative archived forum topics. Deleting archived discussions does nothing to cure the problem at hand!

Meanwhile as the once good mother ship eBay continues to sink further into the abyss, eBay continues to censor the discussions, and manipulate what members they have left by seeding conversations. (as said by John Bodine in the videos below).

And lets not forget the alleged eBay cheerleaders who very well could be company shills and sock puppets. Also the term astroturfer comes to mind too.

If you are concerned about your privacy on the internet in general. Here are a few recommendations. WWW.CCLEANER.COM does an excellent job of wiping out tracking cookies, temporary internet files, and images used to track you where ever you go on the Internet. Here is a direct download link on File Hippo.

Use a web proxy when visiting sites that are tracking you. One Pro VPN is from WWW.HIDEMYASS.COM and there is the TOR Project that works very well and is FREE!

If you use one of these proxy services DO NOT Log Into Your eBay Account with it connected! eBay will detect the IP and suspend your account!

Oh well.. Such is life inside the eBay Fish Bowl.. Are you a Shark or a Minnow about to be eaten?

eBay Seller MollysMine Board Post About Scam Buyers And eBay's Lack Of Help!

The way this gig on eBay works is. Low volume sellers get 6 FREE Listings in a calendar year. If you get a bid, or a bid over your reserve price, eBay charges a $125 “successful transaction fee”. The same thing applies if you list the family sedan with the fixed price Buy Now format. If someone clicks that BIN Button the eBay till rings up another $ale and charges the seller a $125 fee.

After you have listed 6 Vehicles in a calendar year, the 7th vehicle listing steps you up to the big time eBay Motors HIGH VOLUME Seller Club! Woo Hoo.. Welcome to the eBay Motors ~ High Rollers Club From here on you will pay a Flat $50 FEE per Listing, with NO Successful Listing Fee.

NOTE: eBay’s FVF on eBay Motors Vehicles is called a Transaction Service Fee (TSF) Something to do with skating the Motor Vehicle Dealer Licensing Laws.

I recently blogged about these eBay Deadbeat Buyers and changes to the eBay Motors FEE Schedule. The verbiage was added that reads like eBay would not be giving FVF-TSF Refunds if a seller didn’t complete the transaction with the buyer.

eBay Motors Vehicle Sellers Update - List Up To 6 Cars For FREE!

The below eBay Motors Discussion Forum comment from one eBay Cheerleader, possibly an eBay Sock Puppet seems to affirm that no refund policy.. “They are not going to reimburse on that basis. It was a successul listing as it was sold, it just was not paid for in a legal or legitimate way. Ebay has no control over that , only you do.”

eBay Motors Discussion Board Community Support Member Salez4u

That has got to be the Dumbest Statement anyone could make! Oh Yea Baby.. eBay considers the vehicle sold. It’s not eBay’s Fault you didn’t accept the Scamming Buyers Counterfeit Cashiers Check for Payment!

eBay Motors Cheerleader And Suspeced Sock Puppet Fruitacres. Comparing eBay Motors to Hemmings!

Another idiotic post. eBay Motors is a BARGAIN compared to Hemmings.. Yea Sure Fruit Cake! At least Hemming’s Motor News  is a serious selling venue for classic car enthusiasts. I bet Hemmings management would have a big old LOL on your comment!

Meanwhile eBay Motors – Just like the rest of eBay continues to sink lower into the abyss.  Another seller just got eBay Motors rammed up their rear end. And got ridiculed by the regulars hanging out on the forums.

eBay Bid History On Item Number 270844470677 2004 Pontiac Vibe

I see this scammer is a newly registered eBay member and already suspended (naru). I have suspected for many years that eBay was using Bid Bots to further their bottom line.

It wouldn’t take much to write a program that would register new members with user details plucked from an online white page type of database. Then set em loose bidding and buying on the site. After the required number of unpaid item strikes were filed that bot would become NARU just like the little fella above. But that’s just my two cents worth about the possibility of it actually being done.

What a deal.. Get a scamming buyer on your car.. eBay keeps the fees.. And get Ridiculed on eBay’s Motors discussion board by the regulars, and possibly eBay sock puppets and Astroturfers masquerading as regular members. These two sure seem to fit the profile above, and appear to be one person, despite the sentencing styles. Fruitacres and Salez4u.

The bottom line is.. eBay makes money from fraud. eBay could put bidder / buyer regulations in place to validate the member is who they say they are. Sellers could also be validated to prevent or at least slow down scam listings. But just like this article clearly shows, eBay is making money from these deadbeat fraudulent bidders.

With eBay profiting from fraud, what incentive is there for them to prevent it?

Oh well.. Next time try www.autotrader.com or www.cars.com. And depending on your location, defined by zip code, cars.com is offering a single free listing with no FVF or strings attached!

eBay Motors Listing Number 270844470677 2004 Pontiac Vibe. Buyer Tried To Scam Seller!

2006 Chevy Silverado 1500 Only $6400!

Sounds like a GREAT DEAL Huh??

On top of that I will ship it to you FREE Of Charge.

I am an eBay TOP RATED SELLER and have a $100,000.00 Bond with eBay Motors.

And to make sure you are totally satisfied with this unbelievably good deal – I will give you 5 days to test drive it and make sure you are satisfied with it!

OH YEA BABY! Just email me your Name, Address, Phone Number, and your eBay User ID. I will then contact eBay who will email you the purchase and shipping contract.

After you receive the purchase contract from eBay Safe Harbor.. RUSH Right Down to your local western union and wire eBay a Good Faith Deposit of $1200. When eBay receives the deposit they will contact DAS Auto Shippers who will ship your truck to you within 5 days tops guaranteed.

You will have 5 days from the date you receive your truck to look it over, drive it as much as you like, and have it inspected by a mechanic of your choice (at your own expense). And if by some small chance you do not want to purchase the truck, just contact eBay who will have DAS pick it up. When the truck is received back at the eBay logistics warehouse eBay will refund your deposit! With a deal this good – how can you loose??

Another eBay Motors Easy Mark Fell For A SCAM And LOST HIS MONEY!!

Of course this EBMS post is only a Joke.

But it’s no Joke if you were DUMB ENOUGH To FALL FOR ONE LIKE IT!!

Come on Folks.. Wisen Up!!

Quit supporting the scammers!

If you can’t go look at the vehicle and check it out in person – don’t fall for a scam that sounds too good to be true!

If you are planning on buying a car on eBay Motors, the time to do your homework is before bidding and winning an auction.

Most dealers are used to having inspections done and working to finalize their sale. But a private seller just want’s to be paid after his listing ends and that’s it.

This guy won a 2006 Subaru WRX and decided he wanted the seller to take it to a dealer for an inspection after the fact. Seller does not agree and files an unpaid item strike against the buyer.

I have to say i don’t blame the seller one bit. His ad clearly said cash on delivery with local pickup only. Buyer is wrong bidding and then trying to change the terms of the sale. The time to arrange inspections is before winning an auction, or clicking a buy now listing!

Be sure to read my Internet Car Buying Tips Page.

Buyer Won eBay Motors Car Auction Then Want's After The Fact Inspection - Topic

Buyer Won eBay Motors Car Auction Then Want's After The Fact Inspection - Listing

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According to this buyer, he had emailed the seller before purchasing, and his seller lied in an email that the Motor Mounts for a Porsche 928 were indeed True OEM Porsche Parts. Apparently not. The buyer is claiming the mounts are Cheap Chinese Knockoffs!

But the eBay Motors description clearly said NEW OEM.. Oh but that was for the Products Finish..

eBay Buyers should use Toolhaus.org to quickly scan a high volume sellers Negative and Neutral Feedback. Which this sellers Feedback Stinks! Had the buyer done this before purchasing his mounts he might still have his money.

But eBay’s CEO John Donahoe recently stated: The concept of e-commerce is dead and buried, since consumers really don’t care about where they buy, so long as they get the cheapest price.

Oh Yea Baby.. Best Prices on Cheap Chinese knockoff parts for your BMW or Porsche..

Happy Holidays from the Ho Ho Ho Man and all his TRS Chinese Sellers! LOL!!

Non OEM Porsche Motor Mounts On eBay Motors - Discussion

Non OEM Porsche Motor Mounts On eBay Motors - Discussion 1

Deutschepartsusa eBay Item 150608919226 Porsche 928 Liquid Filled Motor Mounts - OEM Finish

One of the discussion board community support members told the guy to be sure the vehicle was titled in the eBay sellers account holders name. Talk about misinformation! What does having the title in the eBay account holders name have anything to do with proving who owns the vehicle? Even eBay’s VPP does not stipulate that the vehicle must be titled in the sellers account holders name to provide coverage. Though that might not be a bad idea to help curb the curbstoners!

• The 1st step for any Internet vehicle buyer is to verify that the seller is indeed the legal owner of said vehicle offered for sale. My advice to the winner of that truck auction is to request a copy of the Title front and back, AND a copy of the sellers Drivers License to prove it is his truck to sell.

• The next step is to verify if their is a lien on the vehicle or not. It’s the buyers responsibility to request either a fax, or scanned document, sent via email attachment of any Lien Satisfaction proof the seller has. And then to call the lien holder to verify that the lien is paid off! The normal procedure for a lien holder satisfying a lien is to send notification to the state that the lien is satisfied so they can remove it from their records. And also send a paper notice to the vehicle owner that the lien is paid in full. If the lien holder is holding a paper title, they would put an official stamp on the title front saying Lien Satisfied and the date it was satisfied, along with a signature of the official applying the stamp. This vehicle in question does show a lien being applied shortly after it was 1st sold on eBay’s Auto Check History Report. It should also be noted that it’s rare to see either CarFax or Experian show a Lien Satisfaction. Being that this was a new Ford product Ford Motor Credit Company probably is or was the official lien holder of record.

• If the vehicle does have a lien on it. Whatever you do, DO NOT send full payment to the seller / owner and rely on them to pay off the lien and send you a clear title. In the past i have bought Internet vehicles in other states by sending TWO Cashiers Checks, one to the Lien Holder that has agreed to mail me the title after the pmt was received. And the other to the vehicles owner for the difference. This is really the only way to protect yourself.

• Depending on the state where the vehicle is titled a paper title may be optional. In Florida a paper title is optional at time of transfer and is available for an additional fee. A seller of a vehicle with an E-Title can go to any Tag Agency and get a paper title. Here is a link to Florida DMV FAQ about Electronic (E-Titles). And a link to Texas DMV where i did not see anything about Electronic Titles.

• In this situation eBay’s VPP would cover the buyer if he sent payment and did not receive the title or the vehicle, and since the seller did not state whether there was a lien or not, the VPP should also cover an undisclosed lien, if that turned out to be the case. However it’s important to Research The FILING Deadline for an eBay VPP Claim which is usually 30 days from the listings end. But regardless whether you are covered or not, do your homework first!

• If the buyer is not planning on personally picking this truck up, thus doing his own Inspection in person. Be sure to pay a 3rd party to inspect it for you. A local Ford Dealer can do this for about an hours labor rate. There is always the possibility that the vehicle could have been involved in an accident or other form of damage, but not shown on a vehicle history report. It can sometimes take up to 90 days or longer for fresh damage to be added to CarFax and Auto Check History Reports. Also be sure to run the vehicles VIN Number through the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB) Database.
  

Folks.. Times are really tough these days! There is a multitude of scams all over the Internet, not just on eBay Motors. Though i believe eBay Motors was the birthplace of Internet vehicle fraud.

Until you have thoroughly done your homework and VERIFIED EVERYTHING, Never Never Blindly Send Payment For A Vehicle!

You very well could have been bidding on someones STOLEN PHOTOS and DESCRIPTION. Hard times can force ordinary honest people to do something that’s fraudulent and against the law.

Don’t be a victim of Internet Vehicle Fraud! Read my Internet Car Buying Tips Article that i wrote just for you.

The Official eBay Discussion Board Director Of Misinformation Giving Bad Advice

eBay Motors Listing For A 2010 Ford F-150 Pickup For Sale By Private Seller 170717432402

This consumer was smart and asked about a suspected fraudulent website on eBay’s Motors Discussion Board. Most of the regulars are quite net savvy, but one did claim the site in question was indeed legit!

Also Internet Scammers Blogged about e-businesstrader.com website as being a scam yesterday. And a website Who Is look up shows the domain was registered on 10/22/2011. 

Folks Just Remember: These SCAMMERS are PROS at what they Specialize In – STEAL MONEY From People that believe there really is a Pot Of GOLD at the End Of The Rainbow!

Don’t let some Scammer ruin your holiday season by conning you out of your money!

eBay Motors Forums Discussion About e-businesstrader.com

e-businesstrader.com Screen Capture

e-businesstrader.com Who Is Lookup

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eBay Motors iPhone App Screen Shot

It’s November and the deep south is finally cooling down.

Thanksgiving will soon be here, and of course the mad rush to start this holiday seasons Christmas shopping is upon us again.

First off, I should admit that I erred on this previous posting where i stated “John Donahoe claims his iPhone app sells 2600 Cars Daily. He actually said it was 2600 Cars Sold in a WEEK. Oops.. I Goofed! The old saying “Crap Happens” definitely applies here..

BUT! Even at 2600 Cars Per Week at $125 (private party free listing with successful TSF) comes to $3250 per week.

With that much money coming in I would think eBay Motors would have an Andriod App out by now. The eBay Motors iPhone / iPad app (not to be confused with the eBay Core app) is limited to those two specific devices.

But the Android Platform is used on many mobile devices and also many carriers. Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-mobile, Boost, and others, all offer phones with the Android (Google) Operating System.

If eBay is indeed selling 2600 Cars per Week, and this is not just typical eBay Market Hype, why limit the market exposure to just an iPhone / iPad app??

Just something to think about. .

And while I’m here writing this post. Folks just beware this holiday season of Internet Fraud. If that bargain car you just found sounds too good to be true – it probably is!

Scammers rely on the greed of buyers thinking that they can really buy a car (or anything else) dirt cheap. Don’t let the lure of a Really LOW Bargain Price toss all your common sense out the window! Do your homework FIRST before sending your hard earned money to a scammer or sleazy seller. And be sure to read my Internet Car Buying Tips before you purchase a vehicle online.

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That normally means that the hosting company shut the site down. Yahoo! was the registrar and web hosting company for this scam website.

• Folks always beware if an advertisement is offing something at a really low price. That’s the 1st BIG RED FLAG of a SCAM!

• Any website or listing that does not have a Phone Number to call and speak to the seller is usually a fraudulent site set up to steal your money.

• And a site that accepts only a Bank to Bank Wire Transfer for payment, along with no phone contact info is a scam!

Scammers can set a website like bestatvstore.com in a few short minutes. Register a domain name with privacy, set up a hosting account, upload all the site files, create a MySQL database and import the database tables, sitemap and submit to search. Then the scammer is in business, usually all done with someones stolen credit card!

These scammers were advertising all over Craigslist and eBay which is where i found out about it. I’m sure it will be back under another name! If you spot it again listed under Craigslist or eBay leave a comment below.

And if you fell victim to this scam – report it to the FBI at WWW.IC3.GOV

So beware if a deal sounds to good to be true.. It usually is!

bestatvstore.com shut down by it's web host YaHoooooooo!

eBay Motors Deadbeat Car Bidders

eBay considers a Car SOLD when it gets a bid or reaches the sellers reserve.

They also naturally consider a fixed price listing SOLD when someone clicks the Buy Now Button. But in the real world a vehicle is not sold until the deal is done and it’s paid for.

eBay advertises a FREE Car Listing on eBay Motors, and if it sells pay only a successful transaction fee. On the average that successful transaction fee is $125. Which is a fair deal if the automobile transaction is successfully closed and paid for.

But from what i have personally experienced and read on eBay’s Motors Discussion Board that’s not always the case. eBay is well known for it’s deadbeat bidders, and eBay Motors is no exception. And at $125 per “successful listing as eBay calls em” is a huge profit maker for eBay. And i wouldn’t be surprised if one of these days eBay gets caught with their pants down using Bid Bots to further pad there bottom line, as one penny auction site got busted for doing.

Maybe some of these eBay Deadbeat Car Buyers are using eBay’s NEW Motors Specific app that eBay CEO John Donahoe recently boasted SOLD 2600 CARS DAILY! Which by the way is only for the iPhone and iPad, there is no eBay Motors App for an Android phone. Talk About Market FLUFF!

On eBay Motors it used to be that Auctions and Fixed Price Listings could be re-listed unlimited times, and counted as ONE Free Listing, as long as the re-list your car feature was used.

But as of 06/14/2011 eBay changed the game rules to allow 6 FREE listings (up from 4 previously) but no longer count re-lists as the same listing. They also added the following verbiage: There is no additional fee charged on the actual sale of the car after the listing closes successfully on eBay. However, you’ll be charged a Successful Listing Fee regardless of whether you carry out the sale with the buyer.

So I’m wondering if deadbeat bidders TSF will still be refundable? The way I read this announcement, the TSF will be non refundable. Sellers list vehicles to SELL them! It’s not the sellers who sport bid or otherwise never make contact to finalize the transaction. Also be advised that Vehicle auctions or fixed priced listings are considered NON Binding by eBay.

NOTE:  eBay calls their normal Final Value Fee (FVF) a Transaction Service Fee (TSF) on eBay Motors to skate vehicle sellers licensing laws.

Selling your car on eBay Motors is a crap shoot – and as the old saying goes – the house always wins!

A better choice with NO Strings Attached would be cars.com where depending on your location (defined by zip code) cars.com will give you 1 FREE listing. There is no FVF or TSF either!

But if you want to give eBay Motors a try follow these tips so hopefully there will be coins jingling in your pocket after the sale.

• Protect Yourself! Be sure to select your bidder requirements. These include refusing bidders that have had unpaid item strikes filed against them, and reject bidders in a country you do not ship to. And especially require any bidder or buyer to have a PayPal account. This alone will help prevent a lot of bidder fraud.

• Also if your eBay account has good feedback. It’s best to set up another account for selling your car. There is something about selling a car on eBay Motors that makes a buyer expect more than should be expected in a used cars condition. It’s not uncommon for buyers to extort money from sellers on a vehicle transaction. If your eBay account has no feedback it is pretty much feedback extortion proof. Unlike a TRS or other high feedback buyer or seller that might fold to an extortion attempt by a buyer that sees your 100% feedback score. Describe your vehicle properly and list any known defects or issues, but DO NOT let a buyer Extort Money back after the sale!

• Lay out your terms of auction / listing in writing. Any used car that is out of warranty should be sold AS-IS with no warranty. Require a Non Refundable deposit of $200-$300 by PayPal within 24 Hours of the listings end. If your listing under the fixed price (buy now) Select an IMMEDIATE DEPOSIT required to eliminate buy-now click button fraud by deadbeat and sport fixed price buyers. I also suggest payment in full within 7 business days. Payment by Bank to Bank wire transfer is the best safest method for the seller. Cash on delivery is another option, but that opens the door to further negotiation by the buyer on arrival if the buyer nit picks the car to pieces. (a common occurrence on eBay motors transactions)

• Provide your contact info in plain sight in your listing. This includes your phone number and email address. The whole idea is to take advantage of the eBay traffic and provide a way for buyers that might not be registered on eBay to contact you. NOTE: eBay recently restricted sellers from listing their contact info in their listings, but this does not include eBay Motors Vehicle Listings.

• I would advise hiding your true home or cell phone number. Putting your cell or other number on eBay motors will open the door to solicitors calling wanting to sell your your car for an up-front fee! Also there are lots of bots that crawl the Internet searching for and harvesting phone numbers and email addresses. Phone numbers wind up on robot-dial solicitors of get rich quick schemes, telemarketers, etc. A good alternative is to get a FREE Google Voice Phone Number in your local area to forward your calls to your cell or other number of choice. The GV number can also accept text messages that you can respond to within your GV account. This is a great free privacy option to screen your calls or direct them to an included voice mail. While your on Google setting up your voice account, set up a Google Gmail Account to use as your email address in your listing. If you get an email, Google can send a text message to notify you it’s there. And Gmail is compatible with most pop mailers like MS Outlook and Outlook Express. But as always beware of scammers emailing trying to pull some form of scam on you. If you suspect someone might be trying to scam you Google it up.

• Present your vehicle good.  Be sure to wash and vacuum, wax, or optionally have a professional detail done on it. Make sure you take many good quality photos. Your well worded description, including any major faults or excuses, and good photos will help to sell your car. I absolutely hate the eBay Motors photo layout where a potential buyer has to scroll up out of the photo view to select a thumbnail for viewing. Whoever designed the layout was not too bright. It would be better if the thumbnails surrounded the main photo or under it.  Besides why pay eBay for more photos, when you can set up a FREE Photobucket.com account and simply upload all your photos to an album, then select the html code and paste that into the eBay Motors SYI box under your description. Be sure to select the HTML tab before pasting your photo bucket code. Use your best photo for the EBM Gallery photo.

• Selling an old Collector Car? Buyers in Europe love old American Classic Cars and have the money to pay for them. When selecting your bidder requirements do not block bidders / buyers from Europe from bidding. Also Bank Wire Transfer is the preferred method of payment for Europe. If you have never done this call your bank and ask about it. Personally an out of country transaction is easier for the seller than a local one. Buyer sends payment and has his own transporter pick up the car. Here is a Volvo XC-90 I sold to Moscow Russia buyer a few years ago.

• Beware of potential buyers emails that want to pay in full by PayPal. That’s a big red flag right there. The PayPal account could be stolen and after the account holder realizes that their account was hijacked, PayPal will reverse the transaction. You could wind up with no car or money! Only accept PayPal for a small enough transaction to secure the deal until full payment can be made. And also beware that that buyer could very well do a charge back with his card company, IF the PayPal transaction was funded by a credit card. And if this happens, PayPal will not fight it for you.

• Never accept any form of Escrow for a vehicle. There are many Fraudulent Escrow company’s run by sacmmers that steal a legitimate company’s website and reword the pages to their fraudulent benefit. Also there are also Fake shipping company’s who promise to pick up a vehicle and pay the seller for the vehicle with a cashiers check upon pickup. One such website was a Look Alike DAS Website that we recently reported. Dependable Auto Shipping is one of eBay’s preferred shippers. Be sure to never deviate from your payment terms as described in your auction.

If you have an old beater car that’s only worth a few hundred bucks, don’t waste your time trying to sell it on eBay Motors. The greatest majority of Deadbeats bid on old clunkers, and either try the old 419 Advance Payment Scam on the seller, or don’t respond after the auction has ended. But the eBay Till Goes Caching, and congratulates you on your Successful Sale! These kind of cars are best sold local on Craigslist or even a cars.com FREE listing as i mentioned above.

And if you have a problem with your transaction – chances are the eBay Motors Forum users will try and put the blame on your shoulders, and belittle you until you leave the forum never to return again.

eBay Motors Deadbeat Bidders. Forum Members Belittle Sellers And Intimidate Them Into Leaving!

 A CAR IS NOT SOLD ~ Until It’s PAID FOR! Simple Nuff..!

Hey John Bodine.. Why don’t you post in one of your eBay forums “we heard you and have fixed that redirect vulnerability.” Watch that post go Poof! LOL!!

Actually today a Google Safe Browsing look up on eBay.com showed 74 Scripting Exploits, and 3 Trojans.

And the US-Cert Vulnerability Note VU#808921 warns of this scripting vulnerability: eBay contains a cross-site scripting vulnerability.

From the US-CERT about eBay: “An attacker may be able to obtain sensitive data from the eBay web site. As of the publication of this document, attackers are using this vulnerability to redirect auction viewers to phishing sites and to modify the eBay auction page to steal credentials. A wide range of impacts may be possible, including disclosure of passwords, credit card numbers, or other personal information. Likewise, information stored in cookies could be stolen or corrupted. An attacker could also exploit web browser vulnerabilities that require scripting support.”

And as far as www.bestatvstore.com goes.. It just wreaks of Fraud! No Phone Number listed and Payment by Bank Wire Transfer Only! I wouldn’t even consider buying an ATV from that website!

Google Maps Look up On 9145 S Federal Way Boise, ID 83716

Beware Of Vehicle Fraud Everyone! SCAMMERS ARE EVERYWHERE!

Google Safe Browsing Report On eBay.com As Of 10/23/2011

US-CERT VU#808921 Vulnerability Note About eBay.com

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But even if he had bought it ON eBay Motors by either winning an auction, or using the buy now feature, the VPP wouldn’t have covered it anyway, since it was older than 10 years. Be Advised that eBay VPP is as full of holes as a piece of Swiss Cheese. Be sure to Read The VPP Exclusions!

A 2000 Buick with 90k miles is obviously just another old sled as we used to call em back in the good old days. According to the buyer, the seller lied his azz off to sell the car. That i wouldn’t doubt, another old turd finds a new home on the internet. If you are Internet Car Shopping, be sure to read my Internet Car Buying Tips page.

But regardless of the condition of the car, or whether it was bought on or off of eBay motors, is it good business to allow board posters to attack the buyer? It’s obvious who the Astroturfer Is in this posting.

Any common eBay poster would receive a suspension for attacking an eBay buyer.

Suspected eBay Astroturfer Buyer Abuse - That's The eBay Attitude, Blame It All On The Buyer!

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Official eBay PinkSlapped Logo

It seems that eBay is hell bent on keeping it’s members thinking they are safe by controlling the discussions on there community forums.

Recently there have been reports of pulled current topics and posts, with the poster receiving the famous “eBay pink slap” and even permanent discussion posting banishment.

Rather than fix the fundamental problems with the website, eBay apparently prefers to hide (or attempts to hide) good information that would benefit both buyers and sellers, in the format of archived eBay forums discussion posts that were easily found by a search.

In my postings I not only criticize eBay Itself, but also BAD eBay Buyers and Sellers. The idea behind being a good critic is not to be one sided (as one long time eBay critic / news reporter has become lately.) Which brings me to the topic of today’s blog post. Pulled eBay Archived Discussions.

I often link to eBay Discussions when blogging about a bad seller, bad buyer, or some eBay screw up like this one! Yesterday i noticed a rather long discussion topic about a 1954 Jaguar Scam was recently removed from eBay’s Motors discussion board.

Upon further investigation i found another topic that had been removed about the pitfalls of using Escrow for a high dollar collector car transaction that went bad.

I wondered if it was just the blog posts i published that linked to eBay discussions that were removed after going back as far as February this year, and finding every one i had referenced had been removed from the discussion archives. Nope.. Running a Bing Search for eBay Motors Escrow Fraud Discussions revealed this cached forum topic that I didn’t blog about had also been removed!

Bing Search Results: Cached eBay Motors Discussion Topic About Escrow Fraud

You can also tell that this pulled eBay discussion topic from 2010 was recently pulled because the cached page was not overwritten by the default eBay topic not found notification.

Folks, with eBay pulling archived topics like the above example, it’s just one less available source of information for anyone that is considering buying a car on eBay Motors that could very well be a scam.

But just like it has been for many years, eBay want’s you to THINK Your Safe Shopping On Their Website. In their minds, by removing discussion topics that mention any kind of fraud, or a transaction turned bad, there are no bad deals on eBay, and everyone that’s buying and selling is happy with the service they provide.

eBay LiveWord

But also it is eBay’s Bed Partner LiveWorld that should take some of the credit regarding removed topics and posts mentioned in this article. LiveWorld hosts and manages the eBay discussion boards. If you have received a Pink Slap or Posting Suspension it’s this bunch of xxxxxx that does the Slapping and Suspending.

If you didn’t know it, LiveWorld AKA LieWorld also manages Facebook’s wall posts and site pages. Put up a negative eBay Page and it will never get indexed into search. I found that out after my site got hit hard with a DdoS Attack in July 2011. I had put up an eBayMotorsSucks Face Book page that after 3 months couldn’t be found in search! Yep.. LiveWorld.com The Censorship Folks!

If you are looking into buying a Car on the Internet. Be sure to read my page about Internet Car Buying Tips as a guide that will give you some real good advice how to proceed with a transaction without getting ripped off!

I am a retired Licensed Florida Auto Dealer with over 38 years of experience in the independent dealer sales business. With 13 of those years doing Internet Vehicle Sales as a specialty, and managing eBay Motors Transactions for clients. If you follow my advice I’m sure there is a great deal to be found on the Internet. Just don’t expect eBay to be helpful if a transaction on eBay Motors goes bad.

Also be advised that eBay VPP is as full of holes as a piece of Swiss Cheese and there are many exclusions that apply. Just because a listing page on eBay Motors says a vehicle is covered with up to $50k in purchase protection, don’t believe it. Read the eBay Motors VPP Fine Print Here.

Be safe and always remember BEWARE Scammers AND Raw Deals Are Everywhere!

In another brain fart – eBay CEO John Donahoe is hoping to compete with Amazon by opening his very own Fulfillment Center. He is hoping that eBay will sell more items from Chinese sellers if buyers can get it faster.

I remember when Donahoe took over after Meg Whitman resigned. He made a comment that eBay looked like a cheap flea market.. Well geeeeezzzzz.. What does he think that CHEAP CHINESE CARP looks like?? LOL!

So here is a buyer that bought this poor quality Motorcycle Trailer that literally started falling apart the 1st time he used it. He took a bunch of photos of it and the damage done the 1st time he used it, and listed it on eBay Motors to warn other potential buyers before they get screwed!

Though the listing does not specify that it came from China, it sure looks like something they would offer for sale.

Do yourself a favor. If your shopping for something for something like this, buy local from a reputable dealer.

Seller lists a 2004 Dodge Neon SRT4 that is fully loaded up with equipment. Miles under 100K and it sells for $6900! Talk about a Steal Of A Deal!

Car was sold at a Manheim Dealer auction and announced as having possible unibody / frame / core support damage. It’s a game the Dealers Play at the auctions, and the large dealers have the auction inspect the cars. If the auction finds a painted panel, a replaced bumper cover, or whatever, they sell the car with that announcement so the dealers can’t arbitrate the car and try and chisel the seller down. That’s just the way it works!

Seller properly disclosed the car as having been announced as damaged by an auction in his listing, plus Auto Check reports the auction announcement.

Buyer bids and didn’t READ the description, or obviously the History Report, and demands his deposit back. eBay forces the seller to refund the deposit and probably sanctioned the seller as well!

eBay Motors Really SUCKS!

eBay Monkeys I'm Gonna Tell!

There is nothing finer than an eBay NARU email message in the morning to chew on with my morning coffee.. LOL!

It’s your loss – not mine. The next time someone needs advice on a bad vehicle transaction, or needs advice about buying a car out of state and has title questions, or just a little lively conversation on your failed eBay Motors Discussion Board, it wont be me. Shovel the place right up John Donahoes AZZ!

Your EBM Discussion Board sucks as bad of the rest of eBay Motors!

Meanwhile Scammers Are Hijacking eBay TRS (Top Rated Sellers) Accounts (I wonder how they are accomplishing that?) Looks like that Drafty Back Door is Still Leaking!

eBay and Security.. That’s a BIG OLE LOL!! HaHaHaHaHaHaHa..

eBay Suspension (NARU) Email Notification. eBay Security Concerns.. That's A Big Ole LOL!!

Meanwhile speaking of eBay Security Concerns..

Here is most likely another NEW eBay LOW PROFILE  Second Chance Offer Scam!

This Smells Like Another LOW PROFILE eBay Motors Second Chance Offer Scam In The Making!

We published THIS SCAM last month where a seller offered this 1954 Jaguar XK-120 Roadster at auction, and was ignoring prospective buyers questions.

The twist with this scam is. The seller AKA The Scammer lists a bait car with a few photos and a very limited description. The scammer hopes potential bidders will send emails asking for more details, photos, etc. But does not return any of those emails until after the listing has ended.

The whole idea here is to let the listing run it’s full duration. Then send out scam second chance offers using eBay’s legitimate Second Chance Offer feature. If the scammer tried to pull the scam while the listing was running, someone would surly report it to eBay and they would eventually pull the listing.

Oh well.. I used to warn suckers that had questions like the above in the eBay Motors Forums screen grab. But eBay decided to Shoot The Messenger!

You see, its really simple. As always eBay wants you to Think Your Safe shopping on their website. They quickly remove messages from members warning of scams on their Discussion Boards. And have been on a major discussion censorship campaign removing posts and suspending members who were discussing the fraud on eBay. Myself included!

So to eBay.. Here is the Golden Phallus NARU Award..

I hope you wear it well.. LOL!!!!

The eBay Golden Phallus NARU Award!

But Wait.. Just Like Those TV Infomercials – There’s More!

eBay Infected With Malware according to Google’s Safe Browsing Tool. And Google Officially Recognizes that eBay XSS Cross Scripting Flaw that’s been around since eBay’s Early Days!

Google eBay Inc Safe Browsing Details | Malicious Software Includes 74 Scripting Exploit(s), 3 Trojan(s).

A Curbstoner AKA Title Jumper is an unlicensed person peddling cars with open titles. eBay Motors has had a problem with curbstoners for a long time.

On the leading automotive website, autotrader.com sellers can list 3 cars in a 12 month period, when they try to list a 4th car the system boots them off and gives them a link to become a registered dealer on the site.

eBay Motors still don’t care if someone gets stuck with a title they can’t transfer. But they do have a Curbstoner Exclusion on their Vehicle Purchase Protection program (VPP) Under Situations that are not covered by VPP: #13 = Receiving a title that is not signed, is improperly assigned, or receiving a title but not being able to register the vehicle. eBay INC is only interested in one thing, collecting fees. So you can peddle as many open titled cars on their site as long as you pay your fees!

Meg Whitmans Successor, CEO John Donahoe is really concerned about the buyers experience on eBay, but here on eBay Motors crappy deals like this one seem to go down regularly. It looks like Donahoe isn’t the slightest bit concerned about eBay Motors. And for a fact, a few years ago was the biggest income earner for eBay USA. Since then It’s turned into a smelly turd!

So here is a guy that bought a bargain car on eBay motors but can’t title it in his name because the curbstoner printed his name on the buyers line, but didn’t pay the taxes and register it in his name. Buyer is up the creek without a paddle.

I wrote a very good article about how to safely buy a car on the internet. Click Here. If your in the market for a used car, read this article first before going Internet car shopping!

It's NOT Such A Bargain - If You Can't Transfer The Title!

Another Curbstoner Ruining The eBay Motors Buying Experience!

Another Title Jumping Curbstoner Ruining The eBay Motors Buying Experience!

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About 2:00 into this video, eBay’s CEO John Donahoe proudly proclaims eBay sells 2600 Cars DAILY via their iPhone app.

Well i guess that’s possible if it’s that easy to look at a car and click the buy now button. But i have to wonder if that is media hype, or even worse, how many of those 2600 Cars were Actually PAID For??

eBay Motors is famous for deadbeat bidders, and the bidders are not regulated or verified. How many teenagers are downloading that app after school and buying a Ferrari to impress a girl they want to get with?

How many Nigerians are buying cars with their iPhones and working sellers with their advance payment scams?

But i do agree that eCommerce is fast moving to a mobile format, this site is also Android and iPhone compatible.

I just cant picture the small photos and squeezed in description to be worthy enough to buy a big ticket item like a car online, unless it was a new car and you had already done your research, and drove one and decided that’s was what you wanted, and were price shopping.

BUT.. Would you buy a Used Car online with only a smart phone?

Lets discuss this by commenting below.

It’s often said that “eBay Pinks” get hateful replies to any board posts they either start or engage in. Lets face it, eBay is not a happy place like it was years ago.

It appears that just about every eBay forum has at least one regular poster that is very active, and could be an eBay employee or even a liveworld employee acting as a liaison between the company’s. And could even be a board moderator as well.

This could explain why some members get away with all kinds of crap postings, while others get pink slapped for nearly nothing and wind up with a permanent board suspension. Lets face it, if a moderator gets a stiff one for someone they will look for that members postings and scrutinize every word looking for something that violates policy. Just like a cop you pizzed off lays waiting for you to drive by and give him probable cause to pull you over.

In the below 2 part video eBay’s John Bodine talks about “Seeding the Conversations”  among other things, but i don’t see a bunch of Pinks posting regularly on eBay’s boards. They must be all under cover as just another active user.

Reminds me of an old saying we had in the car business “get their confidence, get their trust, and get their money.” And if they misbehave give them the boot!

Just a theory, but It’s interesting material for discussion anyway.

eBay Discussion Board Censorship Sucks

I previously blogged about an eBay member that gave countless hours daily helping other eBay members with problem transactions and providing links and quoting eBay policy for whatever the situation might have been.

You see, eBay used to be about community and members helping other members. But since the John Donahoe regime took over Meg Whitmans CEO position everything has been abruptly disrupted.

It appears eBay no longer want’s community member help, and if the regime thinks those members are costing IT MONEY in lost Final Value Fees it will silently silence them. Of course this is all done by LIE WORLD eBay’s partner in censorship who actually does the dirty work behind the scenes.

I received an email from her saying she outed a seller that used a buying ID and filed complaints with eBay to get the item free and then sold it on her selling id.

Whether you expose fraud that’s happening  on eBay or provide links to apply for a FVF eBay can’t stand it, and soon silences the poster. The old saying “Shooting The Messenger” comes to mind here!

I know this person personally and can vouch for her credibility and eBay community abilities. She was the best UNPAID eBay Support that any company could ask for.

She is also a Cancer Survivor and and is a Disabled American that spent a good 6 hours daily 7 days a week cruising eBay’s community discussion boards looking for other eBay community members that needed help.

Recently a hurricane caused some major damage to her state and also cost her money in lost food from being out of power for several days. We all chipped in and took up a collection for her. One member even donated a generator to power her refrige and medical device necessary if another power outage should occur.

This is what eBay used to be all about.  eBay used to be a thriving community of people that believed in the principals Pierre Odimyer founded eBay on. Since John Donahoe took over running eBay corp the community principles has been chiseled away, member by member.

This situation leaves eBay without another good community member helping others. And as most everyone that buys and sells knows, eBay Corp Support Sucks!

Anyway.. Here is the pulled topic that was on eBay’s Motors Discussion board, last updated at 7:30 PM EST.

eBay LiveWorld Forums Error Topic Not Found: 5100026723

Page 1 of Pulled Topic About eBay Member Salez4u Being Denied Write Access To The Board 5100026723

Page 2 of Pulled Topic About eBay Member Salez4u Being Denied Write Access To The Board 5100026723

 eBay Censorship Sucks!

1963 Ford Falcon Convertible

Bob is a long time eBay Member that joined a year later than i did back in 1999.

He got shafted several times by eBay as a seller, but this last time was the straw that broke the camels back so to speak. It involved a car dealership in Cannonsburg, PA.

The dealer bought a decent old 60′s Ford Falcon from him, and paid the required $500 deposit by PayPal.  The seller properly described the car as a “driver quality” kind of car. In other words the car was a daily driver that ran and drove reliably, but was nowhere near a show quality car, and was not advertised as such.

The buyer called and wanted to come on a Sunday to pick the car up and pay with a check. The terms of sale were CASH on delivery if picking up in person, and a bank wire transfer if having the vehicle shipped. The dealer said they didn’t have the cash on a Sunday and promised to come pick the car up on the following Wednesday.

Wednesday came and the buyer showed up and nit picked the car to pieces and offered less for it. The discussion became heated and the buyer threatened the seller with bodily harm. Bob called the police and after investigating the situation gave the buyer an option to pay the seller or leave. The buyer left and refused to buy the car.

Here is where eBay gives the shaft to Bob. The buyer complained to PayPal and requested his deposit back. There is no PayPal coverage for eBay Motors vehicle deposits, and PayPal closed the case in the sellers favor. Next the buyer called their bank and filed a charge back claiming unauthorized usage of his credit card.

She LIED to the bank and the bank took the money back from PayPal who is demanding the seller make a deposit into his PayPal account to cover the negative balance. The seller could smell this coming and emptied his PayPal account, and closed his bank account attached to the PayPal account.

PayPal just blew him off despite him faxing them proof that it was a Vehicle transaction and that they refused delivery, including the police report. PayPal never acknowledged the receipt of the documents and refuses to let Bob speak with a supervisor. Another Crappy Deal on eBay Motors.

Here is the podcast. We also discussed eBay forum censorship and another member that apparently got banned from posting on eBay’s discussion boards.

Another Crappy Deal on eBay Motors. At LOW TIDE the Stench Is Unbearable!

This person is a Disabled American that spends her time giving FREE eBay Support via eBay’s Community Discussion Boards. I got an email from her Sunday saying she couldn’t log in to the eBay Motors Discussion Board, and have not heard anything from her since.

This afternoon i read this thread and figure LiveWorld was looking out for their client and locked her out. It’s obvious that when someone tries to sell a car and gets a Deadbeat Bidder eBay pockets $125. But most casual sellers don’t know that they can get that FVF back by filing an unpaid item dispute with eBay.

Along comes this nice person showing them how to get a refund, and provides a link to apply. This person is costing eBay Money!

Liveworld looks at this and says, YOU are costing our client MONEY! And we can’t have that! Then gives em a big golden organ right in the rectome, there really isn’t any other reason.

eBay just keeps sinking lower and lower every day!

I have to admit I like it. It’s a WordPress.org free blog software with a clean ad free theme. BUT i just had to comment on it’s featured vehicle this week.

A 1967 base model Cougar that it’s owner says it’s “nicer than new.” I somehow have to disagree with that statement. The carpets are badly faded, it looks like over spray on the right door sill, and whoever painted the engine also painted the distributor and heater hoses Ford blue.

Someone probably will be screaming like hell when they get this one!

I like this one better, and IT would have been a better choice to feature on your blog.

Anyhooooo.. the Official eBay Blog is at http://www.ebaymotorsblog.com

Here is the Cougar: http://www.ebaymotorsblog.com/1967-mercury-cougar/
And the Torpedo Jag: http://www.ebaymotorsblog.com/1963-jaguar-xke-coupe/

On eBay Motors: Cougar: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200649599020
And the Torpedo Jag: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/170690233702

1954 Jaguar XK-120 Cached Ended Page

I had been following this one last month after a bidder posted a question on the eBay Motors discussion board.

The discussion was actually about a classic Mercedes 190 SL that the seller also had listed. The thread was quite active and even most of the regulars thought the listing was legit. The seller had also bought some European car parts on eBay Motors so it looked like a legit listing done by someone without a lot of eBay knowledge. I still smelled a rat in the woodpile!

One of my tipsters was a bidder on the car that ended with reserve not met at $51k. Soon there after the seller made contact with that bidder offering to sell the car for $18k, and sent a link to buy the car on eBay. Only problem was it was a duplicate listing on a scam website!

Scammers will list a vehicle on a hijacked eBay sellers account, or register a new eBay account using a stolen credit card. They then list a basic listing with a few photos and a very generic description. Then as a rule do not answer questions from proposed bidders until after the listing ends.

The scammer want’s his auction will run it’s full time and end with a bunch of bidders to send second chance offers to. If they answered a question when the listing was running, someone would spot the scam and turn it into eBay, who would eventually pull the listing blowing the scammers cover.

1954 Jaguar XK-120 Listed On Scammers Website

So the scammer waits until the listing ends and sends out emails to all the bidders, working each one of them at a time.

A scammer could potentially have 42 suckers to prey on as that’s how many bids this Jaguar received.

Also as you can see in the below screen video, this scam website is somehow authenticating an eBay Members User ID and Password.

Scammers have somehow been able to use eBay’s API or otherwise somehow be able to externally access eBay to authenticate a members user info. I did a trace route and this fraudsters website is somewhere in the UK. So my question is, How is a website in the UK able to connect to eBay and authenticate a members credentials?

AND once that User ID IS Authenticated, just what can a scammer get his hands on? This is a serious breach of eBay Security.

Best bet when looking at eBay Motors Vehicles is to keep an eye on your web browsers URL Window. And clever scammers will start out the url with something eBay to fool you.

Web Browsers URL Window Showing Scam Website cars-trucks.us.to url in the UK!

It’s the whole url string you should look at. Sometimes the target website is hidden to the right of the browser window out of site. Put your mouse cursor in the window and use your right scroll key to get to the end of the line.

Official eBay Email That Auction Was Cancelled. Note The Wording In This Email.

Note the wording in this Official email from eBay. It is worded in the scammers favor. So in a situation like this one eBay is inviting the bidder to be scammed!

So just beware when shopping for a car on eBay Motors, or any other website on the internet. Remember the motto – Trust No One! If you can’t personally inspect the vehicle and it’s supporting title documents, or hire a 3rd party inspector to do it for you, forget it!

Vladuz - eBay's Hacker From Hell

In Drăgăşani, people have seen today, in freedom, Liviu Mihail Concioiu (23 years), after which the hacker the FBI and Secret Service, arrested on September 23, 2010 for fraud on the Internet. “I visit her sister, parents, in his apartment and not go up and not someone else. No longer hide when going through town and give greeting acquaintances, “one tenant told us. Valcea DIICOT chief prosecutor, Valentin priestess, told us:” Alan Concioiu was released by the Court of Appeal on the grounds that Pitesti social threat. It has but banned from leaving the city. The freedom are investigated all the other members of the group. ”

Liviu Concioiu launched two attacks like phishing over 3315 employees auction company eBay, thereby avoiding their password and ID. “Chatting it contacted an employee of IT service, saying it employed the same department in Shanghai no longer able to access the account using username and password received from him to enter the eBay business data “, says the indictment DIICOT Valcea. Concioiu, with accomplices, and opened bank accounts with false identification papers to more U.S. banks. All Concioiu coordinated criminal organization attacking another bank customer information the Italian Post, asking them to tell the card data, so they can take possession of bonuses granted by mail. “If we leave 1,000 messages 100 of people give me the required data, “said Concioiu. Of the 509 Italian fraud, only 29 were verified by the Italian Letter.

The company was injured eBay believes that the amount of $ 5,891, another $ 411,933 is the injury of American citizens and companies. Cyber ​​attacks on clients, Poste Italiane has resulted in a loss of 75,405 euros. In case Concioiu are investigated, all at large: Nicolae Vlad (25 years) of Olanu, Ardelean Calin (26 years) in Arad. It was due to the accused disjoint Mădălin Constantin mouth (located abroad), Vlad Simona Gabriela Magda, an Italian citizen Francesco Caserta, Vasile Irinel Ciorhan (arrested in another case), Peter Valerian Dumitraşcu, Madalina Constantin Ionut Gheorghe Stoian and Anthony (last of them investigated in Italy for similar offenses). Italian investigators are awaiting the results of the Letter from which to prove fraud committed by the group and the other 480 clients of the bank’s Italian Post.

I read somewhere that eBay hired him. A hacker that’s as good as Vladuz would be a valuable asset to any Internet companies IT department showing companies the weaknesses in their systems.

As for any truth to this statement – who knows.  But as most old timers know, eBay lies all the time.. Ina Steiner asked eBay about this and they denied it. Of course she just publishes what eBay tells her to anyway.

eBay code of ethics. That’s a Big Ole LOL!

eBay Pulled Post On Seller Central From Former Employee John Delson - Re eBay Ending Auction Format

I have seen so many attempted Private eBay Motors Buyer Scams it isn’t even funny. Scammers usually only prey on Private Sellers as they know the Dealers are well aware of their scams!

This morning i received an email from a private seller of a Harley Davidson Motorcycle. The official eBay Motors Auction Winner was attempting an Advance Payment Scam on the seller. The seller was smart and checked around to see if this was a scam or not before going ahead with the deal.

The way this scam works is. The scam buyer tries to convince the seller he has paid with PayPal and has included $1500 additional in the PayPal payment to be sent by Western Union to his shipping agent.

The scammer is using PayPal’s funds hold policy to claim the funds are being held until the seller sends that $1500 shipping fee to his agent. After the seller sends the $$ by Western Union and emails the MTU Number to PayPal the funds are supposed to be released to the seller. Only thing is, It’s all a scam and no money was ever sent to the sellers PayPal Account to begin with.

If the seller would have sent that $1500 VIA Western Union he would have been had! Good guys 1 Scammers 0!

Here is some helpful advice to hopefully get your vehicle sold and paid for.

#1. PayPal does not accept Payment in FULL for Vehicles (cars, motorcycles, boats, rvs, air planes) The most a vehicle seller can accept via PP for a vehicle is $3,000! I always advise vehicle sellers to only accept a small deposit via PayPal, usually $200-300 is sufficient to ensure a buyer is serious about completing the transaction. The safest method for getting paid for a vehicle is a Bank to Bank wire transfer. Once a buyer sends the money it can’t be reversed and is safe and secure in your bank account.

#2. There is no such thing as an eBay Agent that collects money for sellers. This is a very popular scam that is usually used with the eBay Motors VPP Scam that the FBI recently announced via their www.ic3.gov Website. If you were defrauded in an internet transaction be sure to file a report there!

#3. You have to protect yourself when listing a vehicle on eBay Motors. One of the things eBay refuses to do is verify or regulate bidders on vehicles or any other high dollar item. To eBay this Harley Davidson was SOLD and charged the seller a TSF (transaction service fee) on vehicles to get around dealer licensing laws. Vs FVF on eBay Core. If you get whacked by a scam buyer be sure to file an Unpaid Item Strike against the buyer to get your TSF back!

#4. Be sure to Set Your Buyer Requirements. This is the most important step you can take to protect yourself against scam buyers. The 1st and most important thing to do is require anyone that bids have a PayPal account. This setting alone will block scammers like the below (already naru example). You can also block buyers who have had unpaid item strikes filed against them. You can also pull your bidders contact info and Call Them On The Telephone to verify their sincerity. And block bidders in countries that you do not ship. This option should be well thought out before selecting it.

If you are selling a collector car, buyers in Europe love old American Cast Iron and have the $$ to pay for it. So if that’s what you are selling think twice before blocking buyers from Europe. Also do not hesitate if a European buyer wants to send pmt by bank wire transfer. This is the preferred choice of Europeans paying for vehicles. And like i said above it’s best to ask for a small $200-300 deposit via PayPal to seal the deal after the auction ends.

#5. Spell out your Payment Terms in your listing. Be sure to specify any deposit amount, and when it is required. Usually within 24-48 hours. Note that PayPal vehicle deposits are NON Refundable, and you should specify that in your listing. Specify how the balance should be paid (bank wire transfer is best), and how long a buyer has to send payment in full. Also be sure to specify how much time a buyer has to pick up the vehicle. NEVER NEVER Take more than a small deposit by PayPal. The PayPal account could be stolen, or the buyer files a charge back if funding the PayPal pmt by credit card. PayPal will take that money back out of your PP account or attached bank acct or credit card on file in a NY Minute! It’s not worth taking the chance to a stranger in another state or country that you do not know! Last but not least, if you are selling a used car, it should be Sold AS-IS with no warranty.

Even though eBay Motors Vehicle Auction bids and Fixed Price Listings are NON BINDING! It’s still best and cover your azz and spell it all out in your listing to eliminate any confusion after the sale is made.

It’s real tough these days getting a vehicle sold on eBay Motors AND Paid For! But if you protect yourself you have as good of a shot as anyone of coming out a winner in the end!

eBay Motors Buyer Scam Email From PayPal

Scam Email Imposingly From eBay Giving The Seller Instructions To Pay The Shipper / Agent

It’s a crying shame that eBay allows this Bull Shit to go on!

But they get PAID whenever something SELLS! Regardless if the seller gets PAID or NOT!

Talk about a house of cards – and you know the old saying – the HOUSE always WINS!

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Scammers Fake DAS Auto Shipping Website

Scammers use look alike websites like this to add apparent legitimacy to their scams. This website is probably used in conjunction with the Fake eBay VPP Scam and Scam eBay Live Support Chat websites.

Together a few sites like these look real good to the untrained newbie Internet Vehicle Shopper!

See the Who Is Record for this domain, which was probably registered with someones stolen credit card.

Note the Difference in the Real DAS Website Look Up and the Scam Site!

Beware of scams like this! You can always do a Who Is Look Upon a website fast and easy. Just CLICK HERE and enter the websites name. A legitimate company will not use a Private Registration to hide their identity!

Scammers are real convincing – If you fall for one of their scams you will loose your money!

Don’t say Ole Doc didn’t try and warn ya..

Dependable Auto Shippers Scam Website Who Is Lookup

eBay Warnings About VPP Fraud

I see the FBI IC3 has finally issued a fraud warning about Scammers hawking eBay Motors VPP Protection Scams.

It appears that only after the FBI Issued their warning about eBay’s VPP being used by Scammers to defraud the general public on eBay Motors Itself, Craigslist and other sites, did eBay throw up a bunch of warnings, including one on the eBay Motors home page. They will only warn you about fraud after being forced to by other means.

I know we have been reporting these type of scams since Mid 2009 and were the 1st to screen capture a Scammers Fraudulent eBay Live Support Chat in action.

I suspect that eBay got word of this pending FBI VPP investigation. And in a desperate attempt to sweep the evidence i had collected under the rug, arranged for the devastating DdoS Attack on my server that took us offline for close to a month. This is the reason i put up a bunch of mirror websites that would continue spreading the word about Internet Vehicle Fraud if one or more of my consumer advocate websites were targeted again.

eBay Lies: Motors Vehicle Wire Transfer IS Allowed!

So beware if that car your found on eBay Motors, Craigslist, or anywhere else is priced too cheap to be for real. Scammers rely on Americans being greedy and thinking there scam is for real.

Also there is a strong possibility of Scammers accessing eBay Motors bidder info and sending false second chance offers to under bidders of closed auctions by franchised dealers. See this video we produced a few days ago on that subject.

If you can’t physically go look at and inspect a vehicle, or hire a 3rd party inspector to inspect that vehicle for you, DO NOT Send Payment for it. And whatever you do, don’t send money to an eBay Agent or send pmt by Western Union!

These Scammers are so slick.. They specialize in but one thing, Stealing YOUR Money and are very convincing! The false emails they send look real! See some examples here.

So Don’t fall for these scams and keep your money in the bank!

08/18/2011 Beware Of Scam eBay Motors Second Chance Offers!

Somehow scammers are apparently gaining access into eBay’s API and sending out scan second chance offers on Legitimate eBay Motors Listings.

Pay special attention to the verbiage of this scammers email that was sent to a bidder on this 2008 Volkswagen Jetta. If you receive one of these emails be sure to call the dealer or seller by phone to verify the legitimacy of the offer!

After getting my eBayMotorsSucks.com back online after getting hit by a Ddos attack, and creating 16 Mirror Sites i decided to do a quick newsletter.

eBay had the trust and community back a long time ago. But the huge push for collecting fees by Meg Whitman was more important than the community and trust Pierre had founded eBay on. Meg literally strip mined the community and fattened her portfolio up while trusting eBay members were literally slaughtered by scammers that eBay did nothing about.

I personally think eBay Motors has hit rock bottom! So many good eBayers that believed in trust and community are gone.

But the scammers are still here! So just beware that that bargain buggy you just found that’s dirt cheap very well could be a scam! Don’t loose your money – Be an educated consumer!

I am also considering doing a monthly fraud awareness newsletter to let you the consumer know what’s new in the scammer community.