Welcome to our automotive specific consumer fraud awareness website.
This website was started in early 2004 as a method to spread the word about how fraudsters were scamming good trusting eBay members out of their money.
It is also referred to as a Criticism and Sucks site, poking fun at eBay Inc’s miss-management of eBay Motors.
Our mission statement and ultimate goal of this website, is to educate the consumer about how to spot and avoid Internet Car Scams. We do not solicit advertisers, sell ad space to Google or other ad networks, or otherwise attempt to make a profit from this websites operation.
This website is dedicated to you the internet vehicle shopper. If we have saved you from loosing your money to a scam, please leave a comment below, or sign our guestbook.
Car Business is not a trade you learn in College or any other Business School. Professionally trading automobiles is a self taught business, usually learned by attending dealer auctions and studying the used car market. A good dealer knows cars and all aspects of them. And an experienced dealer can look a car over and drive it and quickly evaluate and find any faults with it. eBay Inc has ran most of their good honest dealers off the site. Including me with 38 years experience in the car business, because they didn’t like this website. There is nothing like eBay Inc shooting the messenger!
When you try to run an Automobile for sale website / business such as eBay Motors with no real experience in the Car Business Itself the result is laughable. Especially when deals are closed on the website itself. And the website collects a FEE for the transaction that was closed. Another totally laughable eBay Inc management blunder is allowing car buyers to extort money back from sellers if the buyer does not think the car was worth what they paid for it. And allows only one way feedback.
eBay Motors Management provides Auction Bidders Contact Information to dealerships and encourages them to work the bidders in transactions OFF Of eBay Motors. It used to be against eBay Inc policy for any private seller, small dealer that is not using the eBay Motors Dealer Center or anywhere else on the eBay network of auction websites to lure a bidder into doing the transaction off of eBay.
The results of dealers working bidders leads can also be laughable. Someone that’s bidding on a car most likely is not expecting a phone call from the dealership trying to pressure them into buying the car right then. I have read a ton of posts on eBay’s Motors Discussion Board where a bidder on a car was upset that eBay gave away their contact info. Back in the good old days of eBay, a seller could get suspended for contacting a bidder and trying to sell off the site.
eBay urged GM to harvest leads from their bidders when GM emerged from bankruptcy in 2009. Auctions were ending and GM was refusing to sell the cars. It even appears that a Shill Bidder 661HENRYGLEN was used to jump start GM’s eBay feedback. eBay had instructed GM to work the leads, and apparently not the listings themselves. The Results Were Disastrous! All the promotion that went into this deal and it turned out to be a huge flop!
It’s all about Honor TRUST and Community that makes a great eBay Motors Transaction. Unfortunately that’s long gone now! eBay has violated their own policy of finalizing the transactions on eBay Motors. All the scams and buyer and seller fraud has taken it’s toll on this once great car trading website. That’s what happens when you have College Educated Marketing Geneses with no Car Business Knowledge trying to run eBay Motors!
The examples you see on this website are mostly the result of eBay Corporate Greed. eBay Inc, could care less about you or their own community. If you fall victim to a scam on their website, they will deny it was ever there and do nothing to help you. That’s why it’s so important to Inspect the Vehicle before sending any money!
Meg Whitman was only interested in sweeping the fraud and scams under the rug while literally strip mining the community and fattening up her portfolio.
The new eBay Corporate Regime under John Donahoes leadership appears to be only interested in the corporate bottom line. The hell with the consumer who gets caught up in one of these scams that eBay don’t want you to know about!
Only after the FBI came out with a warning about eBay Motors VPP Scams did John Donahoe put warnings up “In Plain Sight“ on his website!
When and IF eBay finds a scam listing on their website they will remove all traces of it. So if you are redirected OFF Of eBay Motors to a Scammer controlled website and fall for the scam, you can kiss your money goodbye!
As Rob Chesnut, eBay’s head of Trust and Safety said In This LA Times Article “EBay doesn’t have a product. We are in the trust business: making people feel comfortable doing business with someone they don’t know.” Somehow i believe the Word TRUST and eBay don’t compute. At least not on eBay Motors these days.
So be an educated internet vehicle buyer and don’t fall for a deal that’s too good to be true! You know the old saying.. If it sounds too good to be true – it probably is! Keep your money in the bank until you can either personally inspect a vehicle, or have a 3rd party inspector do it for you!
In July 2011 we were knocked offline by a particularly nasty distributed denial of service attack that lasted close to a month. Someone was trying to shoot the messenger – and silence this websites 1st amendment right to free speech. I can only imagine one entity that would love to see this site offline permanently.
Here are a couple of videos i produced while the attack was under way. These videos default to 360p screen resolution to support slower internet connections. I did however produce them in 720p HD and the default resolution can be changed by clicking on the player control bar where is shows 360p. The best setting for this size video is 480p. It makes the text a little easier to read. You can also full screen them from the player control bar. Use 720p for full screen viewing.
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Thought this article was appropriate:
Ebay Motors blunder makes front page Arizona Republic
http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2011/11/12/20111112ebay-car-auction-mistake-questions.html
Thanks for sharing this article. I added it to our links collection.
Obviously the guy knew that was a too good to be true deal!
But the dealerships management at Scottsdale Bentley could have negotiated a deal with the guy. He was in the market for a Bentley for his wife, and the dealership could have somehow negotiated a sale. Now they have pizzed the buyer off and the Negative PR will spread near and far.
It’s also interesting that cars and real estate on eBay are NON BINDING categories.. BUT a buyer can get an Unpaid Item Strike if they don’t pay, and a seller can face sanctions and receive negative feedback from a buyer that don’t pay. BUT the transaction is NON BINDING!
But i can’t see eBay pulling the listing just because there was a mistake in the buy now price. Must have been to prevent the buyer from leaving the seller Negative Feedback!
eBay Motors ~ You Get FUCKED Here ~ Just Like At Home!
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