Seller offers an old 66 GMC Pickup on eBay Motors earlier in the year. An older collector truck that had a an assigned state of Indiana VIN plate and legitimate title / registration.
Seller properly listed the vehicles VIN and title type in his listing. Buyer won the auction and after paying the seller decided he didn’t want the truck. Seller refused to refund buyers money and all he** broke loose.
This is the thread as i captured it, there has been several posts made after that. I am including a link to the thread on eBay’s discussion board, along with cashed listing link on Bing search engine below this video.
Now we need to get the rest of the wanna be scammers that will soon take over!
In other words don’t let your guard down and fall for another scammers bait. As long as consumers believe there is a vehicle in mint condition, with free shipping, and offered for half of it’s book value, these scams will continue!
We can put the remaining scammers like these out of business if we quit swallowing the bait!
More info HERE and HERE and HERE. Don’t fall for INTERNET SCAMS!!
Another crappy deal on the Web’s Previous #1 Automotive Website – eBay Motors.
I had to screen grab this thread on eBay’s Motors Discussion Board for kicks. From how i read it, the buyer thought he was getting a good deal. But that cheap price for a Volvo XC90 from Massachusetts was apparently rougher than a night in a MA Jail. Hmmmmm…
The buyer got the usual 3rd degree from the board regulars – but is holding his own. It’s turned into somewhat of a bar brawl with 10 pages and over 150 posts in a few short hours! Here is a link to the discussion board thread. Wonder how long this thread will last before eBay pulls it?
Anyway on to the buyers problem. When eBay suspends a seller (NARU) they wipe the system of that sellers 60 days of sales history. So if someone has a problem with a transaction and needs a print out or screen grab they are stuck like chuck! Sometimes a cashed listing can be pulled from a web search, but not with this listing.
Best bet if buying a vehicle on eBay Motors is to have it inspected if you are not within driving distance. Oh well another nail driven into the eBay coffin by John Donahoe who has ran most of his good sellers off. But it don’t really matter anyway.. J.D. will probably soon spin PayPal off on it’s own IPO, then who cares what happens to the rotting carcass of eBay that’s left behind!
eBay Motors – In a strong westerly wind you can smell the stench all the way to Florida! LOL!
Wow.. The Energizer Bunny could never keep up with this Long Running eBay Scam!
Item Number: 320499691440 has been running for nearly 6 Days out of a 7 Day Auction. It changes from an Auction to a BUY NOW after redirecting to harmonyebay.com where if you click that BUY NOW BUTTON it authenticates your confidential eBay user name and password and gives the scammer your info.
From there the scammer will be sending you fake eBay emails instructing you to bank wire the money to the eBay Agent assigned to your transaction. This eBay Agent is somebody that fell for a work from home scam and accepts payment, keeps their 10-20% commission, then wire the balance to another party. The scammer will probably rinse the funds several times to cover his tracks.
Long story short – If you fall for this scam your money is gone! eBay will deny this ever existed and their VPP will not cover it either! So if you stumble on one of these redirect scams on eBay or eBay Motors don’t sent the money to the scammer!
Wow.. This eBay Motors Redirect Scam – Item Number 320499691440 Is Still Scamming!
I see the scammer canceled all the bids last night too. It has had over 6400 page views and has been running 4+ days! I hope nobody gets scammed by this thing, but usually find out after the fact when victims contact me after realizing they were scammed!
It’s Saturday Morning and apparently Nobody is home in San Jose!
This 2007 Chevy Tahoe Redirect Scam (320499691440) that I reported on last night is still up and scamming! It has been up at least 2 days now and has had over 5000 page views! That’s a lot of potential victims of eBay Auction Fraud.
This morning i took a better look at the source codes of both the eBay Listing and the Scammers Listing on the scam website. I’m no Javascript or PHP expert, but there is some script get commands from scgi.ebay.com in there. One thing for sure is, Scammers are able to authenticate your Confidential eBay User Info and if they can get that, they probably can get your financial information too!
Have a look at this video of the source code for these two listings and let me know your thoughts in the comment box below. I am self hosting this video, If you can not see it please update your Adobe Flash Player. There have been a lot of updates lately and an old version may not support my player.
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This is the same 07 Chevy Tahoe Photos scammers used last month to redirect potential buyers OFF Of eBay to a Scammers Trap!
One user lost $15,200 to the same scam last month. eBay told her it was an off eBay deal and they would not cover it under their Vehicle Purchase Program. She was even told by eBay’s Live Help it was legitimate and covered under the ebm vpp! That’s a lot of money to loose!!
eBay Motors is constantly and proactively monitoring the site to prevent and address possible fraudulent behavior. As part of this monitoring, eBay Motors has identified recent redirect issues and has implemented specific safety measures, including updating our detection systems with a filter to identify this particular behavior. These additional protections should supplement smart shopping habits, including reviewing seller ratings, communicating with sellers and confirming transaction details through My eBay before making a purchase, and never paying for a vehicle via instant cash-transfer methods. eBay Motors also offers free vehicle history reports and a Vehicle Purchase Protection program for transactions that occur on the site, to help ensure the 10 million visitors coming to the site each month interact in a safe, trusted marketplace.
I was able to use a bogus eBay User ID and Password that was promptly rejected by the scam site “harmonyebay.com” In Austria. It’s one thing to get redirected to a fake website – but to have that fake website authenticate your eBay credentials is another!
Vladuz was right about one thing.. eBay Lies, They LIE All The Time! LOL!
Updated 03/13/2010: Here is a follow up video showing this scam listing still running Saturday Morning. As of around 3:00 PM EST it was still up and had well over 5000 Page Views!
Here is another low profile collector car scam on eBay Motors. 1936 LaSalle coupe. It looks like the same car scam that we captured back in December 2009.
Scammers are now trying to maintain a low profile to stay in business on eBay Motors. They list a car like this one with a single photo, and start the bidding low. They hope you will contact them and request more photos and information about the car. If the bids get too high the scammers simply cancel them.
The whole idea of this low profile scam is to try and fly under eBay’s radar. If you swallow their bait hook line and sinker, they will be sending you fake eBay vehicle protection program emails that look like they came from eBay – but they are sent by the scammers!
eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection does not cover off site scams like this one! So Don’t Feed The Scammers!
WISE UP there is NO 2003 Chevy Silverado with FREE SHIPPING for $2900!
Yep.. Instead of wiring your hard earned money to Romania – put your money back in the bank and watch this video!
Watch as this 2007 Chevy Tahoe listing sweeps me off of eBay to a hacked website. In order to capture this scam on screen video i used my Blackberry as an IP Modem to slow the action down. Normally the second you enter the hacked eBay listing you would be swept away without a clue – that is unless you are watching your URL Window!
eBay is without a doubt NOT SAFE! These redirect scams have been going on at least since 2006. There is evidence of this in my scam archive HERE. I guess eBay don’t care about this US-CERT that was issued by the Government in 2006!
If you have to use eBay – do so with extreme caution!
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This is a followup Video Cappnonymous posted on YouTube.
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Here is an eBay member in good standing since 2001 with a total feedback score of 812 – that is 100% positive.
In this eBay Motors Forum thread he claims he was scammed out of $15,200 on a vehicle. Naturally eBay is not helping and the eBay Motors VPP is denying claim because eBay pulled the listing as fraudulent.
oi8abug has said in this discussion board thread that he contacted live help and was told the listing was valid, and covered by eBay VPP Protection. He also claims he knows eBay well, as he should with 812 FB and 10 years experience!
However the listing was a very clever scam perpetrated on eBay and not a redirect as we are all so used to. Hopefully he posts an item number, I would like to find a cashed copy of it on one of the search engines.
eBay members come to the discussion boards to ask advise about listings legitimacy, share fraud avoiding advice, and to give advice in general. And in an apparent attempt to sweep the knock off fraud under the rug, eBay has banned members from asking if a listing is or was a scam on the boards!
Watch this video Cappnonymous published showing screen captures of the board posting and members comments.
Lots more Vehicle Buyers will get scammed if this policy is enforced on eBay Motors Forums. And eBay could care less who gets scammed on their site!
It’s a shame that a site that was built on trust can not be trusted!
I will keep this post updated about oi8abug’s progress dealing with eBay as i learn more.
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I published THIS VIDEO yesterday afternoon on YouTube about 10 Collector Car Scams that all had similar scammer markings. eBay is all there collective way of keeping buyers safe on the site pulled a discussion board post about there scams.
eBay knows there is lots of fraud on their website – but loves the fees that are charged to someones stolen credit card or hijacked sellers account, so they would rather pull public postings about scams than pull the scam listing itself.
This morning there was only 3 of the scam listings remaining. But their was a person posting on the EBMDG that they were robbed! I published this follow up video to show how the scammers are working their listings. It’s the holiday season and the scammers seem to be increasing their eBay motors listings to fund their holiday spending.
This is not the usual run of the mill eBay scam where the scammer is plastering a big BUY NOW price and contact email on the listing. It actually looks like an amateur seller with a simple text description and 1 photo.
An under bidder was contacted by the seller and offered a second chance offer. Lucky for that person they asked for advice on eBay’s Motors Discussion Forums.
At least that’s one potential victim that didn’t get scammed! But there are many more that fall into this scammers trap and loose their money!
The scammers are getting slicker how they work their scams.. So be safe and ask for advice on the eBay Motors Forums before falling for a potential scam!
